Baltimore to pay Freddie Gray's family $6.4 million to settle civil claims

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they didn't every officer involved denies your claim.

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    Correct. These lawsuits NEVER settle this fast and for this much. Pure Liberal politics by the Democrats that run the city.
     
  2. cupid dave

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    Source...?

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    How come the second prisoner was unharmed by the ride...?
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    There ain't one, the poster was factually wrong on all counts as I explained to him.
     
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    That money will come from somewhere.

    Less money for education, for government programs, for basic services, etc.

    Baltimore will suffer and liberals are ok with that.

    And personally I am too because the people of Baltimore picked their leaders.
     
  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    What has happened is that Bill Cosby didn't get the Black single women to marry and stop the Welfare rip-off where 73% of all kids are raised fatherless now.

    Those kids are what we call bastards and for good reason.
    70% of all violent crime is by bastards.

    That is just the facts.
    The cities are full of bastards now, and crime makes it dangerous there.
    Black people do not want to admit these things because 73% of the families are on Welfare.

    Now they want to cry because the situation requires strong police presence and firm hand against the bastards who respect nothing but force.

    [​IMG]

    The only defense against these facts is to cry out "racist,"... because it is against Black people in the cities.
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you mean the cop that unloaded his gun on a unarmed, shot, bleeding, out of breath, overweight kid.....?

    I think a better cop would of handled that better... yes


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    this was not about what cops guilt or innocents, it was about what happened to the victim..... the cops will have their own day in court

    civil trials are not as strict as criminal trials... OJ was found not guilty in a criminal trial, but the civil trial found in favor of the victims family

    criminal trial = guilt beyond any reasonable doubt

    civil trial = the preponderance of the evidence (more likely did it then not)

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  7. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    1) The 18 year 350 lb superman was shot once in the arm before the cop got out of the car.

    2) Police training says when you shoot, empty your gun on the criminal.

    3) Hitting the guy 5 times and he is still charging means you missed, or you need hit a better place.

    4) Shooting someone is not a game to see if the criminal takes it as warning.

    5) Shooting at a criminal is the last and final move for a policeman.
     
  8. Songbird

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    Cry me a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing river .....

    Oh wait ! You just did !
     
  9. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    ?

    Civil courts also examine the evidence.
    Why was the other passenger not hurt if the ride was so rough???
     
  10. Hummingbird

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    Whoever said they 'support bad cops'? There's good and bad in every group of mankind on this planet.....

    The night Baltimore exploded, she was heard to have said 'let them loot, it's only property'. Why didn't she open the gates to her home and property and let them loot and destroy her place? After all, it's only 'property'....

    Anyway, in essence, the good people of Baltimore, who were honest, hard-working business owners lost their livelihood b/c of a don't-give-a-damn sloppy attitude of a mayor and a drug dealer, drug addict who had a 2-page police record named Freddie Gray......and now the taxpayers have to foot the bill for a $6.4 million hand-out to Gray's relatives.......something is so wrong w/this pix.
     
  11. Deckel

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    The article explains that. The Maryland state cap does not apply if they are sued in federal court.
     
  12. FreshAir

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    he wasn't charging, stop making things up, he was falling forward out of breath and the scardey cat cop saw black man and heard him grunt (gasping for air), then unloaded his gun in the unarmed man

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    oh boo hoo, you upset family got settlement for the wrongful death of their child, so back at ya..... cry me a river.. oh you just did

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    gee I do not know, happens all the time... just ask a cop, they see many accidents where one person gets a neck snapped and the other walks away

    remember, he was restrained and could not stop his fall, he should of been secured, he was in police custody

    why did the police lie and not mention all their stops?

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  13. FreshAir

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    she made a judgement call, risk the cops lives to save the property or let it die down and then try to catch the people that did it later, hard call to make, many would do it different, maybe some cops and criminals would of died, would that of been better, we just do not know what would of happened had she not made that call, do you think the property was worth more then a policeman's life?

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  14. Bluesguy

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    You mean the 240lb criminal thug who was charging head on at him after already assaulting him and going for his gun and within 10 feet of him when he was finally put down? You do know what a lie of omission is don't you?

    How self serving of you.

    It is solely about the officers guilt or innocence and the mayor just did her best to taint the jury into believing they are $6.4 million worth of guilty. And OJ has nothing to do with THIS case your attempts to conflate them fail.
     
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    It's not her money,she doesn't care.
    Tell her it has to come out of her pocket and see what happens.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    The police wanted to do their jobs and protect the community which they could have done. The major choose to let the animals have their day and burn and loot the law abiding citizens property so as not to upset them. Now she is trying to pay them off with this unwarranted outrageous pay off to the family.

    Grey had ZERO net worth, he displayed ZERO future earnings potential other than the few bucks he made selling drugs on the neighborhood corner, you know what the mayor had specifically ordered the police to stop.
    So justify the $6.4 million to the family, a key factor the settlement is future earnings. Who is getting the money, $600,000 to a father who had nothing to do in his life, abandoned him when he was a baby. A mother who was a crack addict and I have no reasonable doubt played a role in his becoming a criminal selling drugs to the community.

    So explain the $6.4 million number. They should each get $100 and sent on their way.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    We don't know it would have been a federal lawsuit. What would be the grounds for a federal lawsuit? The false arrest has been thrown out by a grand jury. There was not unreasonable force used, this would be a negligence claim, that would be at the state level.

    http://civilrights.findlaw.com/civil-rights-overview/police-misconduct-and-civil-rights.html
     
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    As the Baltimore mayor quoted, "It's only property, let it burn."

    Just goes to show, a fool and his money are soon parted.
     
  19. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Of course not. There won't be anything left. His mom is a heroine addict... And his dad only gets like $200K since he was a crack head and left little Freddie at an early age.

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    IIRC, wasn't the mayor saying that you could see his legs moving when he was loaded into the van at first? Then Al Sharpton came along and suddenly her entire story changed.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    False he charged back getting within 10 feet of the officer. Denigrating comments do not substitute for the forensic evidence.

    The statement by the witness was that the ride was not rough or jolting, Grey was banging HIMSELF around inside the van.

    The police laid him on the floor in a prone position how could he fall?

    Because they weren't necessarily counting them at the time? What does that have to do with anything?
     
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    not gonna re-debate that old case for you.... we will just have to agree to disagree

    a cop-cap would of been nice, but this cop did not wear one

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  23. RichT2705

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    Good luck getting a fair trial now after the payout.

    Civil should always happen after criminal.
     
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    You don't know it wouldn't have been a federal civil rights violation lawsuit either. In the end, however, this was pay $6.4M now to avoid the risk of $7M in rioting damage when this thing went to trial.
     
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    And so it is your evaluation that $6.4 million somehow buys peace ? Please explain.
     

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