Baltimore to pay Freddie Gray's family $6.4 million to settle civil claims

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Making them stand down takes them out of commission. Do you understand what that means?
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a major problem these days, because you're not alone in refusing to see the truth of the situation. You form your own opinion based on Mother Jones and MSNBC and you never back down or care about facts.
     
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    I had been off this thread for some time, so when you started talking about "this brave officer who put his life on the line to protect the community from a violent street thug", I have to assume that you're talking about some other incident besides the Freddie Grey.

    The only person in a life threatening situation in this case was the victim, who was given the classic "nickle ride" by these cops on a Sunday morning. One that went tragically wrong.
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right?? MSRP: $390,677.00

    She'll be broke and driving a base model Chrysler 300 within a year. But hey, they look alike.

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see the truth, your the one that disagrees with it.....
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in my older age I make many of those typo's... can't help it, think it was the chemo, I try to catch them, but miss many

    yes, it means she goes to jail if she does it again.... she can no longer tell them not to issue marriage licenses
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your wrong, simple as that, and this is really not the topic of the thread, so will leave it at that

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  8. bois darc chunk

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    I think I understand what you are saying, but the Baltimore newspaper article that I linked says there will be no lawsuit filed whatsoever, because of the $6.4MM. If they were suing for a civil rights violation (and I can't imagine a way they would not,) that would be federal and those damages could be pricey. Then you get to add in the other costs of the lawsuit. They obviously hope to avoid more violence and looting, and the costs of those as well. It's a gamble, and yes, with tax payer money, but they have already admitted responsibility. So, it's a calculated gamble. However, it first struck me as being way too early to make an award, too. At this point, where it would be filed is moot- because the award means they won't file a lawsuit, and they also cannot talk about it. I did read that this was the largest award in a while and didn't jive with other more recent awards, so it is unique. I'm not agreeing with the way it was handled or disagreeingÂ… just trying to figure out their rationale for doing it.
     
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    Democrats are stupid. Exhibit A.

    My lifelong Democrat grandparents would be so embarrassed, may they rest in peace.
     
  10. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No actually I am correct and nothing you have said is correct. Your baseless unsupported claim I am wrong gets flushed down the toilet when I have the grand jury and the Justice Department to back me up along with the forensics, you can pound sand all you want you have nothing to back up your baseless assertions. You can remain to be obtuse and ignore the evidence, the grand jury and the Holder DOJ, it doesn't change the fact that it was a lawful shooting and it is quite reprehensible you would attempt to smear a police officer who put his life on the line to protect that community.

    Post what you have to refute the facts.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    DUH, that is the issue, there wasn't even a lawsuit file state or federal. Had one been filed, going by the charges against the officers, it would have been in state court and the cap is $400,000.

    On what basis, I listed the criteria for a federal lawsuit, it would take the false imprisonment which isn't there. The case would be due to negligence and that would be state.

    And even if so based on what, what was his potential future earnings?

    Well if they wait for the criminal trial and it comes out innocent of all charges they wouldn't be much.

    So it's blackmail, sorry that is not the way to operate a city.

    You CAN'T rationalize with this mayor and city government and this states attorney, they are total incompetents. You know the $6.4 million doesn't go to that community, it doesn't go to rebuild the community or provide services to that community. And if you think the low-life mother and father are going to remain there instead of buying their mansions out in the suburbs I got a bridge to sell you.
     
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    The Mayor isnt going for re-election perhaps she got the money before she could run off. My bet is Hilary promised her a position.
     
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    You're very passionate about this issue. I am not, nor am I interested in counterpunching point by point. I'm not trying to argue with you, but apparently that wasn't clear in my last post. I actually appreciated seeing your point of view because it helped me to look at the situation from several vantage points. The choice to offer a settlement was obviously made to put this issue to bed, with a quickness. They claim it was to prevent pricier damages at the end of whatever trial there may have been, as well as prolonged litigation and potential civil unrest. That's plausible, even if the settlement seems excessive. I don't know how they arrived at that figure, unless they believed it would be a matter for a federal court. They obviously could have saved money, if and only if, they could be sure the case couldn't go federal. A good lawyer would find a way to take it federal, one way or another. It wouldn't have to be winnable. It would only have to cause lots of publicity to be troublesome. That's also plausible. The mayor made the decision before announcing that she wasn't going to run for re-election, so I do see politics interfering and perhaps hastening the decision. Who gets the settlement and what they do with it, doesn't really matter to me. The award was to make city's part of the lawsuit go away. The way it is structured does that. Was it too generous? We won't ever know for sure, because the suit won't be filed. Some will always think the mayor, et al, showed incompetence and some will think she did the right thing. People will bore of the subject when the next distraction will come along. That's politics.
     
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    You can bet that this settlement was also discussed in detail with the company that carries Baltimore's errors and omissions insurance, since they'll be writing the check.
     
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    Its all a bunch of B.S. basically. The idiot mayor/govn along with how many lawyers figured that number was good enough to shut them up. It'll by plenty of drugs for the parents to go along with the other settlements they were getting paid for due to lead poisoning. They'll be bankrupt in a couple of years.
     
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    I stopped taking it serious when I read "Mosby."
     
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    If you read his comment, he said nothing like that. Do you miss Freddie Gray?
     
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    Clearly, like most white Freddie Gray supporters, you've never been in a bad part of town where crime is rampant.

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    Case in point.

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    Don't take it personal, I was just being silly. We all make mistakes, I just wanted to use that picture.
     
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    A couple of years can't come soon enough.
     
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    lol, been there done that....

    and I do not take it personal, had already forgot about it till saw your quoted reply show up :)

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    You go ahead and stop reading when it doesn't suit your agenda and so keep on living in your fantasy world.
     
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    Let's not. They were charged with false imprisonment, not indicted with false imprisonment.
    Wikipedia is right.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    They are charged under the indictment. The states attorney attempted to bring charges and screwed up. It was a perfectly legitimate and lawful arrest.
     
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    Nope. Cause he did nothing wrong, besides running while black and having a legal weapon.
     
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    They had reasonable suspicion for a stop, he ran, that gave them probable cause to arrest. They found a weapon on his person, ends up an illegal weapon.

    There was NOTHING wrong with the arrest and NONE have been charged with a false arrest or imprisonment. Give it up. This is a absurd as your claiming manslaughter and murder are the same thing.
     

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