Because some on the board still deny it..........

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, May 16, 2018.

  1. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    What you are missing is that propaganda does not work on everyone. Just like marketing. One of the open secrets of marketing is that Evangelical types are the easiest to market to.

    Personally I long discounted the effectiveness of propaganda and marketing because I always see through it. However I've seen the data. It still confounds me though, but then I'm not exactly a conformist.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    I read something the other day about that those Americans that the Soviet Union got to spy for them were mostly conservative leaning.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It works on the braindead, and they outnumber the intelligent a thousand-to-one. Just like marketing?? [​IMG] :mrgreen:
     
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    Hmm, got to check that out.
     
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    Wait. Lesh. You seriously weren’t aware that the Russians have meddled in every election we’ve had since the 50s? You really actually trully insanely believed that this was the very first time?? Holy **** the alt left is pathetic.

    And how come you didn’t mention the parts about how those same Russians also doing pro Bernie and anti trump stuff as well? Why leave that important information out? Because it might hurt your pathetic narrative??

    Also no mention of the “no evidence of collusion” part. God this is sad.
     
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  6. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    You think that was Russians who paid her off? Or that Russians needed to help a billionaire pay someone off?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :rolleyes: Say it loud, say it often, and the dimwits will eventually believe every word.
     
  8. garyd

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    McCabe disagrees with you. And the information contained in the Dossier has never been even remotely demonstrated to be true.
     
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    To believe otherwise is to ignore reality. And to be sure they've never been very good at it.
     
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    Hell, they are complaining about some Russians putting some truth-stretched memes on FB, all while ignoring the MILLIONS of dollars donated to Hillary from middle eastern countries. Why are the memes more worrisome than financing a presidential candidate?
     
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    I still deny it. The Russians began meddling before Trump was even running. They helped Hillary also.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Could you provide a link about those millions? Thanks.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    McCabe does not disagree.

    McCabe says Republicans 'mischaracterized' his testimony on Drumpf dossier

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/mccabe-republicans-trump-dossier/index.html

    Dem Rep. Quigley: "Out Of Context" That McCabe Said No FISA Warrant Without Dossier

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...abe_said_no_fisa_warrant_without_dossier.html

    The Steele Dossier on Drumpf and Russia Is Looking More and More Real

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...r-on-trump-is-looking-more-and-more-real.html
     
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    You've ingenuously implied that Burr who confirms the election meddling occurred, as reported in the ICA, also concluded it was a pro-Trump effort. Burr, unlike Warner, didn't directly address Russia's political preference, but spoke in broader terms about Russia's meddling. Investigators are now examining the 2 page ICA addendem. Composed by Peter Strzok, it contains unverified intel submitted by Steele. The addendum was also slipped into Obamas daily security briefings by Brennan. Burr was prudent not to address the issue specifically.
     
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    Its sad that you people need to be reminded of this all the freaking time.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f9d19a22b8e4
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/problem-for-hillary-clinton-charity-didnt-disclose-foreign-donors/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-charity.html

    I'm sure you will excuse them though right? Even though the foundation is the only reason the Clintons are rich, while Trump has been a billionaire all his life.
     
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    In response to all of these spurious claims only one word is necessary and that word is bogus.
     
  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But.........you appear to be conflating two issues. One, the degree of influence Russian propaganda in favor of Drumpf had on the election, and the second, donations made to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was Sec. of State. Perhaps you should do some research on the Clinton Foundation from reputable sources. In any event, I'm not seeing how the two issues relate.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see. So the saying, "my mind's made up don't confuse me with the facts" applies to you. Not surprised.
     
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    You have ZERO proof of what degree of influence memes had on the election. Its the left that always complains about how money in politics swings elections, especially when the Koch bros. are backing a candidate. So why are you going to dismiss the primary source of Clintons wealth just because Russians make some memes that has zero proof of any persuasion of any voters opinion to vote for Trump?
     
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  22. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So do you.
     
  23. Wildjoker5

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    Right, I don't know anyone that chose not to vote for Hillary because of a meme. So therefore your entire "collusion", Russian investigation is a moot point whether dems in congress believe anyone was swayed one way or another. Thank you for ending this thread.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't be silly. Not having definitive evidence of how many votes the Russian's social media propaganda campaign changed is a far cry from proving anything, one way or the other, about the potential conspiracy between the Drumpf campaign and Russia.
     
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    So you admit there is no evidence to your Russian claim, and therefor we can claim there was a potential conspiracy between Hillary and all her donors without evidence right? Funny part is, there is becoming more and more evidence about Hillary and the foundation doing illegal acts, money laundering, than there has been to say any Russian involvement led to Trumps win.
     

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