Belgian Twins Choose Euthanasia

How many times must it be reported that the Bible is a compilation of many many chapters by various people.
Taken out of context, those attacking the Bible come up with many claims.

 

It is a poor fit to try to match Jesus up with Government. Very good comments just above.

 

I apologize for not understanding entirely the post above. Christian has nothing to do with your political party. Mom was a Christian who voted Democratic party. I too am a Christian whom once voted for the Democrats yet leaned enough about them to swing to voting for Republicans.

As to progressive, that is not a government term that I am aware of, not in the USA.

Trumpcare is a current myth cooked up by Democrats. Trump has no such law.

What will be in the new law is not yet known.

A false conclusion over Trump is hereby defeated.

 

It was bringing in 9/11 to the conversation that was absurd. I have no problem with euthanasia as long as it is properly supervised.

 

In what context does slavery become acceptable? In what context does killing children for talking back to their parents become acceptable? In what context does wiping out the Amalekites for what their ancestors did 400 years ago become acceptable?

http://www.doxa.ws/Bible/amel_problem.html

"The Amalekite problem should be a much bigger problem for Christian apologists than it is. As a Christian apologist, I say we don't take it seriously enough. The reason for this, however, is because the atheists harp on it constantly, and no answer is ever good enough for them. I can understand that, since doesn't seem to be a good answer, but one does get tried of trying. I am more appualed by some Christian answers tahn I am by the atheists constant harping. In the OT God orders the Israelits to wipe out many differt people's, but for some reason the Amalekites have become the icon of brutality and genocide disguissed as divine wrath.Christian apologists only make it worse when they try to defend it as a rational action. This usually takes the form of "well they deserved it, they were really evil, God gave them 400 yeas to repent, that's more than enough time,in fact its just down right generous; therefore, it's ok to slaughter little babbies." I always get visions of Gastopo and guys in jack boots.

I sometimes wonder what my fellow Christians think about in their spare time


This is one of the basic reasons I'm no longer an inerrentist. I cannot accept the idea that God would ever command salughter of infants. Slaughtering anyone is bad enough, but to slaughter innocents, that's never acceptable. I don't accept that God would really do that. Here I draw upon my models of inspiration: the Bible is a collection of writtings made by humans which reflect their encounters with the divine. That's not to say these writtings don't have a lot of purely human understanding in them. People were very cruel in the ancient world. Genocide, slaughter, infanticide, brutality in war, these were commonplace, and they are all refected in the book of 1 Samuel."

I know most versions of the bible declare that no one is innocent. Which would mean that children go to hell, since they aren't mentally capable of accepting Jesus as their saviour.

 

I'm generally against euthanasia for infants, although there are certain conditions that do warrant it, like Harlequin Fetus.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/harlequin-ichthyosis#

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/meet-brenna-a-baby-with-harlequin-ichthyosis/

 

while i think those man have or better had the right to choose how to live and die no matter what some old books say.
personally i think the odds are good that if they got denied they would have killed themself anyway. so better let them die peaceful then messy.

it does seems like a bit old news to be in this part of the forum tbh.

 

America has slaves locked up in various prisons. I believe when I was drafted into the Army, it made me a slave.

I am not yet clear how this thread got sidetracked into slavery.

 

Prisoners aren't slaves. They're not owned by the state. They can refuse to work and get punished, but they're not obligated to do hard labour simply because they're told to.

Were you forced to work without a wage when you were drafted?

 

Holy crap the EU is just ****ing nuts. WOW.

 

You make it seem as if prisoners are paid workers, on vacation.

Slaves got wages via shelter, food, clothing, and more.

It was more than about money in the Army, it was what we all had to do daily. We followed orders. You had to serve as a draftee to know why I said that.

 

Slaves got paid? That's news to me. There certainly isn't anything in the bible that MANDATES slaves be paid a wage.

I understand that soldiers were (in theory) supposed to obey orders. But aside from treason, you could still disobey your commanding officer (if he ordered you to kill civilians, for example). They couldn't beat you if you disobeyed (which Exodus 21:20-21 allows:
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money).


Personally, I'm against the notion of a draft. It doesn't tend to result in the most skilled soldiers (just those who can't arrange to get out of serving).

 

Slaves had compensation then. What do you do with pay? Buy food, pay for shelter and clothing. Do you recall slaves paying for those items.

I don't use the Bible to prove things.

You would be surprised on a per month basis how many Article 15 punishments I typed up for the company commander. And he was a nice guy. But still, the Army can punish you many ways. The Army is not just some job. Men do go to jail. If things for the men are better now, it is due to it being volunteer. A draftee was not well thought of.

 

So they're treated worse than sweatshop workers. Gotcha.

You just use it to justify things. Got it.

The draft, like slavery, should never have been instituted.

 

But not worse than we in the Army were.
You use the Bible, not me.
Right, now you got it. Slavery compares to the then Army. You are catching on.

 

Would you let me own you under biblical regulations?

 

No

 

I'm To agree to live according to the few laws found in the Bible or else I am a hypocrite?

If that is all it takes to be a hypocrite. I gladly refuse to live per the Bible laws.

 

I'm glad that your morality has at least progressed beyond that of the OT brutes.

 

Why, because your belief system has been shown to be the sham that it is?

 

Yes, just make sure you never eat seafood or wear clothing with mixed fabrics, and your ticket to heaven is assured.

 

Yeah, thanks.

 

I am a republican man. Of course my morals progressed which is why I no longer vote for Democrats.

I got sick of being party to the removal of my neighbors funds to be used for me or my family. It was just theft from them. (I always speak of the public as my neighbors. This system of mine keeps me clear headed of whom loses their cash and who gets their cash, and the fact some slugs in DC pick winners and losers.)

 

No it's not. Not even close.

And besides, shouldn't we be able and willing to assist those who want to commit suicide? It's better for our species as a whole. Most of these people are terminally ill with horrifying side effects from the treatments or ailment they are suffering from. When your diagnosed with stage 4 Leukemia and have been bombarded with chemicals for years, your veins have swollen black, you can't remember the last time you kept a meal down, and your family hates to come see you because they can't handle the way you look physically at that point; i bet you change your mind.

 

Taxes pay for roads and public services like the fire department and public schools. And let's not forget grants that allow scientific research. Would you really have no concerns if they vanished?

Capitalism only appeared in the last few hundred years. Humanity managed to survive without it for a very long time.