Biden says 'poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids'

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    You don't have this right either. Why not check for facts, and use quotes, before you make these claims?
     
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    How many 'people' were there?
     
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    The Helsinki news conference is completely documented so I do not need to quote anything. The only people who would deny that Trump trashed our intelligence agencies and stated that Putin said very strongly that Russia did not interfere. Only the most blind Trump fan would deny that Trump trashed our intelligence agencies in fron of Putin and the world. Trump just resently lied that Mueller exhorted him. Muller did not.Mueller niether exhonkrated Trump nor did he recommend criminal legal action.
     
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    Of course Russia interferes in our elections, just as we interfere in theirs. But the Russian attempted interference had absolutely no effect on our elections - and that's where the Democratic lie is. As much as the liberals hate it, Trump won fair and square. And anyway, it's hilarious that liberals suddenly pretend to hate the commies. The liberals are the commies.
     
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    We both know why you cant post the quotes. More leftist bs.
     
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    I do not care what the Democrats think. I know that Russia interfered. I do not care if we interfere in their elections but their elections are not open and fair and Putin knows the results before Election Day is even set. I do not. Else entirely that we would ever the evidence that proves Russian interference had an effect but it does not matter since the fact alone that Russia even attempted to interferis enough for me to sustain the fact that they are vile enemies. Russia is not controlled by commies anymore. In fact the commies are part of the opposition and Putin is not operating as a commie anymore but a RW Fascist Nazi type Scum Turd.

    This is not a case of liberal or conservative it is about the fact that a POTUS and his family and that POTUS as a candidate and as a POTUS behaves in a manner of someone who hates America and loves Putin and Russia. I do not want to say this but some say he is a Traitor.
    So what do you call a POTUS who talks like a traitor? Answer Donald.
     
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    You are either unwilling to debate or are incapable of open debate so you hide behind Fake labels such as liberal or leftist.
     
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    Use quotes or don't bother making silly claims. You just used the term RW in your previous post.
     
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    We both know that you seem afraid to go watch the Helsinki news conference because you will hear Trump trash our Intel agencies and say that Putin said very powerfully or forcefully that Russia did not do it.

    You seem afraid to hear the truth.
     
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    Raw is not a fake label when I use it it is a description.
     
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    Well I have heard and experienced the anti-Trump protesters up close, ugly, and personal. And I can assure you it was much MUCH worse than some guy quipping 'shoot them'. And if you beieve nothing like that ever happened at a Clinton rally or any other leftist rally, you are probably beyond all hope. And I am very sure those people were not admonished from the podium.

    Talk about a tempest in a teapot. That is a classic illustration.
     
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    Evidence trumps your anecdotes. White nationalists are the biggest domestic terror threat. Trump's FBI said so.
     
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    Leftists should always provide evidence for any of their claims though they'll usually back off when asked. Look at the BS from a liberal in post 71. You've not noticed their BS before, despite just coming through the Russian hoax?
     
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    White nationalists are in such a minority they don't even register as any kind of voting bloc or other demographic. They certainly have no voice, no power in the national conversation. As reprehensible and indefensible as they are, they don't hold a candle to the threat that the modern liberal movement is to our liberties and American way of life.
     
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    You don't even want to know raw.
     
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    There is no Russia hoax. Russia is an evil actor that commits genocide, invades other countries, kills it's journalists, interferes with the elections of foreign countries. Any American who believes that the Russian interference was a hoax is either an ignorant fool or a traitor to his country.
     
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    Racism is so entranced in the US society that it shows in the statistics. Driving while black is a real phenomena. The amount of black people being searched at night decreases, since it gets harder to see who is black and who is white. White people have a higher change of having contraband. It is also a fact that black people, under the same circumstances, get a higher sentence than white people. And when "justice" is not so blind,.. than you bet that society is even worse.
     
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    The left seems to be changing their favorite false label from "racist" to "white nationalist" :roll:
     
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    I disagree. While there are different IQ levels among siblings, the studies can't eliminate environment as a very significant factor. The source of a person's intelligence is not a singular part of the human brain, but is made of many areas connected in different ways from person to person and is shaped according to each person's experiences. In short, you are born with a certain capacity, but if you don't use and develop it, you don't have much.

    As far as the anecdote, how do you control for the psychological factors a child who has been adopted is exposed to?

    Also, your link--Charles Murray was a political scientist and used that book to promote his political agenda of White Nationalism (supremacy). While some of his data may be valid, he has been challenged frequently and consistently in the area of environment and on motivation to perform on the IQ tests. https://www.pnas.org/content/108/19/7716
     
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    Yep. They go from hateful term to hateful term throwing stuff at the wall hoping something will stick. They have no credibility, no honor, no shame. And the person they blame for EVERYTHING and try to tie to EVERYTHING is President Trump who is about as far from being a white nationalist or a racist as anybody on the planet.

    For instance they are blaming Trump entirely for the El Paso shooting despite the fact that the perpetrator posted a manifesto placing his ideology long before President Trump and also declaring that he was a militant environmentalist who wanted to kill off a lot of people to save the planet from annihilation by global warming. President Trump is among the skeptics questioning that humankind can do much, if anything, to change the climate. Those are facts the dishonest leftist media, the Democrats in honest, and those who parrot them leave out of the narrative.

    They blame President Trump for the Dayton shooting even though he was a militant leftist, admiring of the Squad and all the other Democrats trashing the President and the country, and spewing all the leftist nonsense that those on the right reject. But it isn't THEIR rhetoric that inspired him according to the leftists but it was President Trump.

    They have no credibility, no honor, no shame. I honestly fear for our country if these people regain power in the White House and Congress.

    Trump 2020 and vote for lots of Republicans who at least won't be working to destroy him.
     
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    This may be a factor of racism, of which the President has no part and has never had any part at least for the last 40+ years, but it has nothing to do with white nationalism/white supremacy. It is also noted that the same study that revealed black offenders receive on average 19.1% longer sentences than white offenders also revealed that women of all races receive shorter sentences than white male offenders for the same crime.

    Right or wrong, the Trump Administration addressed the disparity by initiating federal minimum sentences across the board on the theory most of those sentenced of all races would receive the minimum sentence thereby removing the disparity of sentences ordered by individual judges. We can argue whether a minimum sentence for a conviction should be universal with no exceptions, but it was an effort to correct the situation.

    Not exactly a move by white supremacists though, yes? The federal government only controls the federal courts, however, and has no authority over the lower courts and how the individual states handle it unless civil rights are being violated. So those who care should be taking that issue up with state and local authorities.

    President Trump is neither partisan nor ideologue, and he is by no means racist or white supremacist. He is a pragmatic problem solver who throws the status quo out the window to find solutions that are effective and reasonable. He deserves a second term.
     
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    I fear for the county too.

    Politics has become team sports with the mentality of crazed fans screaming and threatening each other. To blame one side and not see the same faults in the other is the real problem here.
     
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    An honorable person would also acknowledge that the interference was very benign, small scale, extremely modestly funded, and completely ineffective because most of the effort was in bright blue states that Hillary won by a landslide. The IG's investigation, Mueller's investigation, the House and Senate investigations into the matter all concluded that the Russians did not change the outcome in any way. If anything, the Hillary campaign's collusion with the Russians hurt Trump while the Russians themselves did not hurt her at all.

    Trump did not trash our intelligence agencies in any way. All he said is that Putin denies any involvement in the Russian meddling and that he didn't know why he would have. He was not saying that our intelligence agencies were wrong. He just said there is no logical reason for Putin to have done it and there is so far no evidence involving Putin or his closest people directly.

    The only one who would have any beef with the Russians in the past election would be Trump. And he prefers to keep the Russians as cautious friends instead of adversaries even as he has kept serious sanctions on Russia.

    President Trump is right. And he deserves another term.
     
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    That's a good first step in eliminating any leftover racial bias in the justice system. I'd point out that 95% of criminal defendants end up in STATE courts, though, rather than federal ones. I would suggest that all defendants remain hidden from view from both the jury and the judge, make the jury decide on guilt or innocence without the defendant to look at and make the judge decide on the sentence without knowing whether the defendant was black or white, male or female, but that would run counter to the Constitutional protection of allowing the defendant to face his accusers. Not being able to see who was charging you with what crime was one of the big abuses of the Inquisition and the Soviet Union. What to do, what to do.
     
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    Oh yay, we have someone trying to resurrect the Russian Collusion Delusion! This never gets old! Like never. I'm not being sarcastic at all!
    :roflol: :roflol:
     

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