BRAKING NEWS: 60 Russian TANKS in 30 kilometer from Mariupol/WW3?

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  1. Pronin24

    Pronin24 New Member

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    Rebels do not provide tanks' ID. Nobody can find it out. Just guess. Defectors and those, who were captured, left plenty of all kind of arms for rebels. The tanks are old, but still working well for highly motivated fighters.
     
  2. litwin

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    or no, i am have a nasty tamper its from my father . the chair solution is for you. but dont worry 1 year from today and you ´ll be free as well

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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    LOL,))) many of them are dead , they dont mind))

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    step one foot into Lithuania, and the USA will rip the Russian military into little pieces.
     
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    Ho-ho-ho! Youch me and my older brother will kick you. :))) Now that's a manly behaviour!!! :))) In russian cities the kids after they make 8-10 years old prefer to stay for themselves. In fact the US and NATO for the moment are not able to do any serious damage to russian army. And in another fact the sea-port in Ust-Luga defends the territory of Baltic countries (noone knows what they are called) much better than all the US army. For there is absolutely no need for Russia to take the territories. They are of no use. Especially with the people, who live there for the moment.
     
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    Very interesting Russian tanks. Main invisible. And inaudible. Apparently the technology is much better stels technology. Because Russian tanks can see and hear only the paranoid of the Western media. Very funny. Write more.
     
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    CNN failed to find Russian army in Novoazovsk:

    [video=youtube;YUWttDxSfJk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUWttDxSfJk[/video]




    Meanwhile, each new day brings whole trucks of Junta corpses.
     
  9. Pronin24

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    Ronstar, Russia does not need more territories, where people do not want to become a part of Russia. NATO wants to grab more territories for exploitation more countries economically and politically. NATO is not for keeping peace, it is aggressive military organization. Not elected officials decide for us: peace or war. Ukraine became threatened by NATO and certain parts of Ukraine do not want it this way. This is the conflict is about.
     
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    write to Kiselev
     
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    NATO is not a country...and if it was an "aggressive military organization", wouldn't it be taking over nations rather than allowing them in?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a very big difference between being "ABLE" to do something, and being stupid enough to actually do it.

    [video=youtube;lpuS7_NPv6U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpuS7_NPv6U[/video]
     
  13. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    what Kremlin trolls hare try to sell you its Soviet times propaganda thesis

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    more here
    http://englishrussia.com/2006/09/20/soviet-propaganda-against-usa-posters/
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    bbc.........
     
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    Formerly known as the Blair Broadcasting Corporation.
     
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    Indeed. I'm amazed that intelligent people are sucked in by Western media and government propaganda to the extent they apparently are. The reality is that from the outset Putin was willing to negotiate with Obama about the issue of federalism in the east of Ukraine but Obama refused. This entire situation has needlessly escalated whereas it could, and should, have be settled diplomatically but that's not what Obama wanted. It's federalism that the people in he east of Ukraine seek NOT separation and/or to join Russia as has been depicted in the media. Anybody who claims to be respectful of democracy needs in the first instance to respect the democratic will and aspirations of the people in eastern Ukraine.
     
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    Lol Jeez what kind of utter nonsense is that? Putin cannot negotiate Ukraine's federalism with Obama, the Ukrainian people can negotiate federalism in Ukraine among themselves if they want to, no one else can.

    And nothing, absolutely nothing excuses or justifies Russia's unprovoked aggression and its dirty undeclared war against sovereign Ukraine - a UN member in good standing.
     
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    My bad. I meant to say E.U and other interested parties. Take fifteen minutes out of your time by reading this paper:

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38441.htm
     
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    Still wrong, Putin has no business negotiating the internal organization of Ukraine with anyone, not even Ukraine, unless he is invited by the government of Ukraine to take part in negotiations, which he wasn't.

    And that things don't go Putin way is hardly a valid reason to destabilize and invade a neighboring state, annex its land, arm its criminals and wage a dirty undeclared war against its sovereignty and people.
     
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    After flops in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya I see the only sense in "not being able". Sorry, but I heard so often the regrets that Soviet Russia wasn't destroyed during the moment when the US was the only power having nuclear weapons that I started to think that it is very popular. Maybe I am mistaking, but there is more chance that the 60 armors from the first post are identified, screened and published then it is anything else.
     
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    I don't understand the reasoning that Donebas citizens have less right to secede than say Scotland or even a US state with enough votes. It is typical fascist mentality. They don't want to hand over their resources for a IMF loan that will be charged to the people but b\put in the oligarchs pockets. Porko got his Chocolate factor the same way. It was given to him with the peoples money.
     
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    You need to look at the history of how things work out for the citizens after IMF loans are accepted to understand the situation and why those who care about the country want it stopped. Do you really think that Ukraine would be better off as a slave who has everything taken from them by their master?
    "IMF approves massive funding for Ukraine
    Last Updated: 2014-08-30 10:57 | Xinhua

    The International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Friday announced a disbursement of 1.4 billion U.S. dollars to crisis-torn Ukraine, but warned that the program remains highly challenging and continues to hinge on the development of the conflict.

    The new funding was approved after the IMF’s Executive Board, its decision-making body, completed the first review of Ukraine’s performance under an economic program. That brings the total disbursements to about 4.51 billion U.S. dollars.

    "Overall, economic policies have generally been implemented as agreed in the program, as the Ukrainian authorities have persisted in taking difficult measures despite the volatile political situation," the world lender said in a statement.

    "However, the conflict in the eastern part of the country is taking its toll on the economy and society, and compensatory measures will be critical to achieve key program targets agreed for 2014 and beyond," noted the statement.

    It stressed that the program "remains highly challenging and continues to hinge crucially on the assumption that the conflict will subside in the coming months."
     
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    Ok, you didn't read the paper...Fine.
     
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    Reading the paper and buying the rubbish it spews are two different things. I am not into conspiracies and pseudo-scientific Karl Marx like nonsense, thanks.
     
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    It is difficult to understand what you are attempting to convey, as your English communication skills are a bit wanting, so if I misinterpret please correct me.

    I freely admit Afghanistan was a mistake and not a successful as hoped...though it seems to have been a bit more so that Russias little war there. Iraq was even worse but we did pretty much destroy everything we aimed at. Libya was not a war, and the United States was barely involved militarily. It would seem that the "Not Being Able" part is merely a matter of your perspective (which is likely very pro-Russian), and based on the society that you inhabit.

    Let us all hope the United States military machine is never used to fight Russia, as the result would be extremely bad for everything on Earth.....but it would likely mean the end of Russia completely (as well as many other parts of the world).
     
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    Indeed the parallel made with Scotland is an apt one. Historically it's the West that has been responsible for fomenting this crisis way before Russia annexed Crimea which was, in reality, as the paper I posted makes clear, a response to it. Any discerning commentator not blinded by Western propaganda, is able to grasp this fundamental truth.
     

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