Central High School promposal goes viral, some classmates call it racist

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    People are certainly free to be racist.... nobody has ever argued otherwise, that I'm aware of...

    The question is whether there will be consequences...
     
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    Two points here. The right to free speech may preclude govt from deciding and implementing the consequence, and as a either of governmental or social policy some consequences are far smarter than others, and more appropriate venues for that consequence. Lets not confuse a right, with what is prudent policy, and lets not confuse what ought to be done, with what can be done.

    Maybe when you are just being an arse, the best institutional response is not formalized into a punishment, and plain ordinary people who happen to be in that young arse's society the friends, the family, the neighbors, the church, coworkers on their lunchbreak, yes even those students attending that prom individually, should be the ones providing the consequence by telling him so!
     
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    One doesn't have to have a problem with Jews to acknowledge that their hands, too, were dirty when it comes to profitable participation in the slave trade:

    EXCERPT "Jews were so influential in those colonies that slave auctions scheduled to take place on Jewish holidays often were postponed, according to Marc Lee Raphael, a professor of Judaic studies at the College of William & Mary." CONTINUED (*)

    "How culpable were Dutch Jews in the slave trade?"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-culpable-were-dutch-jews-in-the-slave-trade/
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you think the consequences should be, if any, for tastelessly exercising your 1st Amendment rights?

    I don't know if the teenagers who made that offensive sign are racist or not.

    I suspect that they were just trying to be clever and original and ended up looking stupid in the process. Please remember that the brains of people at that age are still not fully developed.

    Thanks,
     
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    Black hand were dirty. Jewish hands were dirty. White hands were dirty. Even American Indian hands were dirty....they owned black slaves.

    Are the only "clean" race Asian? Maybe today's Asians need some perks for not having dirty ancestors?
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm afraid that slavery existed throughout Asia and still exists.
    The extensive child sex slave trade in S.E. Asia is especially disturbing(*)

    What sort of perverted miscreant has sex with a child?

    (*) "Slavery in Asia"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Asia#Modern_times_3
    EXCERPT "The child sex trade has also plagued southeast Asia, where "[m]ost sources agree that far more than 1 million underage children are 'effectively enslaved'" as of 2006." CONTINUED
     
  7. notme

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    I don't recall Asians being part of the whites and Jews slaving black people around in the US.
    And I deffo hit a nerve there lumping the Jews together with white people with slaving black people around.
    You even make personal attacks when I ALSO accuse that the Jews were in on it, but you don't deny they were part of it.

    I also note you've dropped your whole far right wing idea's that basically saying the label of black people being cotton pickers is not a racist label.
    You actually are the personified person mis labelling racism.
     
  8. Buri

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    As opposed to someone who constantly makes things about race, even when it’s not there? That’s race baiting.
     
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    It's a really bass-ackwards tack to take for someone who is trying to profess concern about racism.
     
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    The Asians were equal opportunity slavers. Look up "getting Shanghaied"
     
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    You are responding to: I don't recall Asians being part of the whites and Jews slaving black people around in the US.
     
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  12. notme

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    Indeed. And it's not as if I accused all the Jews and only the Jews were in on it. And the poster complained that the label of racism was too often mislabeled... while supporting the idea that black cotton pickers isn't a racist comment. lol

    It's just a weird.
     
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    I think you're struggling to follow the flow of the thread. The one who is bass-ackwards here is you.
     
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    I think you're struggling to follow I'm mocking people who are just here to make some kind of clever off topic personal attack.
     
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    And your introduction of "the Jews" to the thread was supposed to be ... what? Germane?
     
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    Has anybody brought up the Egyptians yet? (eyeroll)

    Virtually every race, and yes, including Blacks, have enslaved somebody at some time. In civilized society's enlightenment, we know that this is wrong, and the practice is illegal.
     
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    So what. There is no reason why they should be exempt to be mentioned that they were part of the cotton picking business where only black people were slaved around. You sure did not bring one up.

    You even seized to defend your idea that the label of black cotton pickers isn't a racist remark.
    I guess you admitted to that opinion being rather lame.
     
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    So, since you can finally admit that chinese people were also slaves do you agree they should have reparations like black people?
     
  19. Par10

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    So post Civil War (and most likely before also), poor white people would also pick cotton. My mother and her siblings had to pick cotton when she was growing up in the Great Depression. I have pictures of her out in the field when she was about 4 years old, picking cotton. Not Jewish, not black, not slaves. Simply poor.
     
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    Is English not your first language? I'm having a hard time making sense of what you were trying to say on the last two lines. Could you clarify?
     
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    It seems you got a hard time proving your point.

    You dumped your idea that its not racist to label black people as cotton pickers.
    You gave criteria what it racist. And it checked out. You should have figured that one out on you own.
    So it's only "special" to claim it did not.

    Heck.. I even go further. You claimed "more black people owned slaves then Jews"
    That's a rather white far right extremist myth.
    Black people bought slaves to end their slavery status.
    So again.. "special" that you suggests something else was going on.

    You also gave no reason why Jews should be exempt from being mentioned as slave owners.
    You're just calling it racist when they are included... and that comes without any kind of argument.
    Hence it's just a personal attack.
     
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    Where did I allegedly do this? Can you provide a quote or a link or a post number or anything useful to discern WTF you're talking about?

    Where did I allegedly do this? Can you provide a quote or a link or a post number or anything useful to discern WTF you're talking about?

    Where did I allegedly do this? Can you provide a quote or a link or a post number or anything useful to discern WTF you're talking about?
     
  23. notme

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    ah...
    You're just jumping in on somebodies failed point and do not know what side you picked and do not know the context of the conversation, while can't be bothered to read up what the references are of the previous posts.

    Got it.
     
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    It's pretty rich for a guy that dishonestly attributes claims to me that I never made to turn around and say that I don't know the context of the conversation. It's clearly you that is struggling to follow the conversation.
     
  25. notme

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    Hey now. You picked up the glove where somebody bailed out on, to nit pick things out of context.
     

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