Concealed Carry Means Fewer Murders, Says New Study

http://reason.com/blog/2013/12/23/concealed-carry-fewer-murders-says-new-s

Not a surprise.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13504851.2013.854294#.Ur3hWuL6EVq

 

Sounds about right. Here in Maryland the only ones carrying are the criminals because citizens aren't allowed without proving they have a need, which includes proving you've had death threats or similar via documented police reports. Otherwise, it's just the criminals and cops who carry.

 

Different locations have different variables so no two places are exactly the same blah blah blah long story short I understand my little corner of the US doesn't speak for the nation of a whole. Anyway I don't know how many people carry out here, but you are a minority if your home doesn't have at least one gun. The only murder we've had out here in the last 15 years was a stabbing about 10 years ago. Before that I'm not sure what other murders this town has had.

 

Hmmmm - an epidemiological study published in "applied economics letters " - this should be good

So, let us start with the "impact and ranking" of the journal it is published in - because this gives us an idea of whether the journal is a recognised and respected journal in it's field - one likely to accept first class research or an internet piece of rubbish that will accept anything - no matter how biased and badly done

And surprise!! Surprise!! - impact and ranking put it near the bottom of the field
http://www.journals.elsevier.com/jo...news/editorial-the-impact-factor-and-ranking/

So we have a bad journal publishing a paper that is only marginally within it's field - hmmmmmm

Oh! and BTW - next time please link to where you got what you are quoting and not just to the so called "study" - like the actual site http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/i...arry-means-fewer-murders,-says-new-study.aspx that way we know up front that it is NRA funded pap.

The NRA's REAL Motto - "Taking another leaf out of the tobacco industry's public liar crook, sorry I mean cook book"

 

Ah yes, the evil NRA, another proxy for "evil" in the libs playbook. Turns out they are the only real "gun safety" organizations around as opposed the disguised "gun safety" gun grabber organizations.

 

the study was based on state-level data?

how ignorant.

these are mostly issues for densely populated areas, not places like Alaska, Montana, and Idaho.

 

FACT: its nearly impossible to get a CCW in NYC.


NYC has a much lower murder rate than many other cities that have much looser CCW laws.

 

I was wondering if you could provide a link to a comparative study that says what you just said please.

 

Economics is the study of alternatives. Not just about business.

 

In absolutely every study that has been done about this issue....it has been determined that Heavily Armed Communities have a drastically lower rate of Crime and Gun related Violence and Deaths than other communities that have a population of people who are not heavily armed.

This is so in my community where just about everyone owns several weapons and our crime rate is almost none existent.

In fact the Police Chief asks people that if they are carrying to do so in a concealed manner as their permits allow them to as to not frighten other people from out of town.

AboveAlpha

 

except for NYC, which has an astronomically low rate of CCWs.

 

Link please

 

everyone who knows anything about guns, knows how hard it is to get a CCW in NYC

 

But NYC does have a heavily armed population.

AboveAlpha

 

prove it, with evidence.

 

Link please

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I was wondering if you could provide a link to a comparative study that says what you just said please.

 

If you follow the gun debate at all, you're aware of the fact that Mike Bloomberg, the soon-to-be ex-Mayor of New York City, takes credit for a steep decline in the city's crime rate due to his strict enforcement of the city's tough gun laws. But while this may mean that very few city residents own legal guns, research published by Gary Kleck (UCLA Law Review, #56, 2009) indicates that within another few years, the number of illegal guns may exceed the number of adults living within the city. Imagine that! The city with the toughest gun laws will also be home to the largest number of guns. How is that possible? Read below the fold.

LINK...http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/20/1249008/-Want-A-Gun-Move-To-New-York-City#

AboveAlpha

 

Anyone that knows anything about large cities is that they are heavily political. For instance, Chicago, the most dangerous city, under reports it's gun crime. Just ask any Chicago cop.

 

Kleck bases his calculations on the idea that per capita American handgun ownership is .0325 (one-third of a gun for every person.) But those numbers have changed. In fact, since the 1980s, handguns have entered the market over long guns by a ratio of two to one. So the per capita ownership of handguns is probably now close to 0.50. This being the case, if we follow Kleck's logic to its ultimate conclusion, the continued migration of people into New York City from 2000 until 2013 means that at least 400,000 new handguns have come into town during the same period. Add this to the 2 million guns that NYPD believe were in the city in 1980, then tack on another 30,000 each year between 1981 and 2000, and we are up to 3 million guns.

stupidest theory I have ever seen about guns.

 

Let me tell you if you think that there are not a HUGE number of both legal and illegal guns in New York City you are fooling yourself.

I have a great number of friends who live in New York and even their wives carry a small .32 or .38 in their pocketbooks.

The number of illegal weapons is astronomical...as many websites including sites of New York Cities own estimated numbers for illegal weapons and the ATF's numbers are all estimated at over 2 Million.

AboveAlpha

 

Opinion based. Please provide factual information in a link please

 

lol...

there is no evidence that 1 million guns have been brought into NYC by folks moving here.

its an idiotic theory.

 

you said

Link please

 

its YOUR logic, that the strength of gun laws has a direct relation to the safety of a place.

 

Can't prove what you said?