Concealed Carry Means Fewer Murders, Says New Study

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the main point of the OP is that loose gun laws makes a society safer.

    well, why then is NYC one of the safest cities in the USA even with very strong gun laws?
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Link showing NYC is one of the safest cities in the USA even with very strong gun laws please
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comprehend
    From your link
    Buffalo is in New York Yes?

    Oh and since you like Wiki here ya go
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York
    Seems you are wrong on all counts
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    were talking about NYC

    that stands for New York City.

    Buffalo isn't part of New York City.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also from your link
    You did a quick google search and you didn't even read what it said.
    Now onto your other remark...Buffalo true enough is not NYC...care to guess what their gun control laws are like?
    Anyway please try to find a link that actually supports what you are saying and not one that says HEY don't trust these rankings....it makes you look foolish
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that's something you know all about, huh?
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please quit the misdirection and show us a link that actually supports what you are espousing. Thanks
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    you claimed in another thread that it was easy..which is it, easy or hard?
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you are being dishonest.

    I have never stated that its easy to get a CCW in NYC.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL I saw that too. I starting to think troll here
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he's being dishonest.

    I never claimed its easy to get a CCW in NYC.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really cause I saw this exchange

    You responded
    This makes me think you are arguing with yourself
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you don't need a CCW to own a rifle or shotgun.

    I assumed you knew that.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what about a handgun?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol!!!!

    what do you think?

    do you think you need a CCW to simply own a handgun?

    lol!!!!!!!
     
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    Did not say they were evil but they ARE biased and they ARE an advertising a arm of the armaments industry
     
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    that's not what you claimed. You stated that a license was necessary to own a shotgun. An applicant must go through the same process as applying for a handgun permit. THEN, if justified, one may purchase said item. It also sets up a data base for confiscation, a job I know you'll sure to enjoy. Tell me cop, why do you have more rights than I?
     
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    FAIL!!!!

    the application process to possess a handgun is much more thorough and extensive than to simply get a rifle/shotgun permit.

    yes, a license is neccessary to own a rifle/shotgun.

    i never stated differently.

    but its not near impossible to possess a firearm in NYC, and such a claim is ignorantly stupid.
     
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    I was kinda hoping for a yea or nay...that NYC citizens could own a handgun without licensing or a CCW. Thanks in advance
     
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    oh, so they can shut the hell up just so satisfy you? WTF makes YOU so special that no one can have a dissenting opinion? Admit it, you would just as soon stifle your opponents because only you have the right to voice your opinions about another country? Bahhhhhhhhhhh stay the hell out of business and you won't lose any sleep
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    here, he's lying:
    Possession – Handguns

    http://www.nyfirearms.com/blog/nys-gun-laws/

    or

    http://gun.laws.com/state-gun-laws/new-york-gun-laws

    LEO doesn't have to go through this bs just because they have a badge, they don't go through this process like reg folks. They are beyond the law
     
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    only active police can possess a handgun in NYC without a permit.
     
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    ahhh so you just fibbed to us in a previous post :roll:
     
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    you're being dishonest again.

    I never stated anyone could possess a handgun in NYC without a permit.
     

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