Concealed Carry Means Fewer Murders, Says New Study

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  1. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I'm sure you said it
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    prove it or apologize
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty sure you said it
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    whatever bro.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyway....it's a fact that more guns means less crime and CCW is proving that everyday.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Chicago is full of guns and their crime is soaring.
     
  7. Regular Joe

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    OK. From now on, let's just start a new sub forum with the title "Ronstar in the spotlight".
    Otherwise, yes it's a fact. When the bad guys know that there are a LOT of regular Joes carrying guns, they try harder to appear to be polite.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there's no evidence that loosening gun laws makes a society safer.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are not full of licensed concealed carry and lawful gun ownership..why their gun control laws are as strict as NYC if I recall correctly. Anyway..it's a fact, where gun control laws are lax, the crime rate is much lower than NYC

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    LOL Good post
     
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    and there is no evidence that a police state is making us any safer either. Who's going to protect us from the likes of pigs out of control? more pigs just like them?
     
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    Because the guns are owned, and used, by criminals. It is next to impossible for a law abiding citizen to legally own a firearm, and until SCOTUS ordered IL to issue concealed carry permits, it was quite literally 100% impossible to legally carry. Once concealed carry is implemented (which is happening as we speak), we'll see violent crime, and murder, go down. Because when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
     
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    its has always been legal to possess a shotgun/rifle in Chicago, with an Illinois Firearms ID. They must issue a permit to all qualified applicants.
     
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    A shotgun locked up at home doesn't help much when a thug comes at you with an illegally owned handgun. Like I said, now that they've been forced to issue CCW's, crime rates are going to plummet.
     
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    bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    crime rates will not plummit simply due to CCWs


    there is no city anywhere in the USA where crime rates plummited simply due to allowing CCWs.
     
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    You'll end up eating those words in a few years. Trust.
     
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    yeah, let us know when Chicago's crime and murder rate plummits.
     
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    he's worried about job security. If everyone has a gun, he'll be phased out
     
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    I'm not sure about cities, but I am about a state.

    In the so-called Gunshine State, home to the most gun permits in the country, firearm violence has fallen to the lowest point on record.

    As state and national legislators consider gun control laws in the wake of last month's Connecticut school shooting, Florida finds itself in a gun violence depression. The Firearm-involved violent crime rate has dropped 33 percent between 2007 and 2011, while the number of issued concealed weapons permits rose nearly 90 percent during that time, state records show.
    http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2013/jan/06/fla-firearm-violence-hits-record-low/
     
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    your obsession with attacking me and accusing me of being a cop, is frightening.
     
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    If the gal in this story had a pistol in her purse, she could have stopped this nonsense instead of being left to just take pictures.

    Knockout: Victims of brutal Downtown Mall assault want arrests, and answers from police


     
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    it is illegal just to roam the streets with said items. They don't do you much good when you are on the streets or in your car.
     
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    Why not just give a concealed carry permit to everyone (except the crims) and a blue armband to be worn
    at all times signifying a CC.....well you could wear the blue armband and not carry...hhhmmm....
    The crims would think twice every time they saw the blue armband....is he carrying or isn't he....hhhmmm
     
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    Yes they will and yes they did :roll:
     
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    why give them the warning they won't give you?
     

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