Concealed Carry Means Fewer Murders, Says New Study

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    prove it with evidence.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    from YOUR article

    But other state and national data suggests a more nuanced picture of gun violence.

    Florida statistics show murderers are increasingly using firearms. Between 2000 and 2005, Florida's firearm-involved murder rate never topped 3.5 per 100,000 residents. Every year since, it's exceeded that number. And in 2011, for the first time on record, guns were used in more than 70 percent of homicides.

    Gary Kleck, a Florida State criminology professor who has studied the link between guns and crime, cautions against tying recent declines in firearm violence to more gun permits.

    Kleck, who has long argued his research shows little evidence that more gun laws equal less crime, notes gun violence has fallen nationally for nearly two decades, not just in Florida. He also said concealed weapon permit data is an unreliable way to measure gun ownership in a state.

    "The real problem there in drawing conclusions is you're just guessing why that decline or change in gun violence has occurred," Kleck said.

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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    did you even read where the research came from? it came from Quinnipiac University they are not known to be favorable to the right
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    murder rate in Chicago plummited BEFORE their concealed-carry permit program began.

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    Is not an issue - academic writing has certain standards it has to meet - this does not meet them
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Quinnipiac University is not creditable. I will remember that next time anyone on the left parades around one of their left wing favorable polls and studies which most of them are

    you cant have it both ways you cant use them as creditable if you agree with one of their polls or studies and then say they are not creditable when they do one you don't like
     
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    Did not say that

    One person does not a university make (well unless you are the Oregon Institute LOL) Just what IS the relationship between this "study" and the university?
     
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    if the only way to lower murder rates is to loosen gun laws, how come murder rates dropped in Chicago and NYC in 2013??
     
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    Nobody is suggesting that it is the ONLY way, just that it does have a positive impact. The BEST way to lower murder rates has nothing to do with guns whatsoever, rather it would be abolishing the war on (some) drugs. That is the cause of more carnage than any other single factor.
     

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