Does the FBI have a problem?

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Does the FBI have a problem?

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Professional dedication to duty trumps personal opinion. Something many trumpettes can't grasp it seems.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, what I am saying is that suspicion of a crime based on the words and actions of various individuals is sufficient to launch an investigation in order to determine if in fact those words and actions amount to a crime.

    What they do in banana republics is circumvent the legal processes established by the rule of law and the constitution. Seems some people can't quite grasp the basic fundamentals of why the rule of law in america is the people's protection against autocrats taking control.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still don't know because the Oversight committee is being stonewalled on that question.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what oversight committee and how are they being stonewalled? Can you actually back up your accusations with facts or are you just regurgitating partisan spin?
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The very reason they are issuing subpoenas now because the intelligence community who is supposed to report to Congress is not forthcoming with information.
     
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    If you ever get a chance, ask Dan Rather or Brian Williams what happened when they spoke fake facts. Williams only got a demotion because his lie (commonly known as fake fact) was about a personal experience he had and not about political news. Had his lie been about political news he surely would have been fired. Yet because your 'god' cries fake news every time something is said or printed about him he doesn't like you and his worshipers fall in line and believe him. If you would just stop and think about what I've said right here you would recognize that something was wrong but you won't even do that.
     
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    What information is being requested and by whom?

    You do realize that a criminal investigation has precedence over an oversight committee inquiry where no criminal charges can result, don't you?

    Rules of evidence in a criminal investigation are somewhat more stringent than committee investigation..
     
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    WOW! That shows what you don't know.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He said with a straight face.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    amazing isn't it? apparently personal loyalty trumps patriotism.
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For one, what led up to the FISA request. Been months now.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which fisa request are you talking about?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For one, the reason the Obama admin spied on an opposing party candidate.
     
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    Ahh, deflection.
     
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    Ok, maybe not allegiance, but how about not trying to work to derail him from within.
     
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    If nobody called out the media when they get it wrong or just lie about something, how will you know ? When the media says something bad about Trump and it is false they are given a pass because it supports the democrat's plans. Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see, seems like a good policy for listening to MSM.
     
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    no, actually. a comment on the level of hypocrisy of your post. Since you obviously weren't aware of it I thought I'd gently point it out. Apparently I need to be more direct as my reference seemed to fly over your head.
     
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    It does not matter, you believe everything the MSM says and nothing that comes from the White House or any other source.
     
  20. Hoosier8

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    The intelligence heads report to Congress. They are not a separate government.
     
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    They report when they have completed their probe. You think that they should report on their progress as they go along?
     
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    You know little about this. They report any ongoing investigations to Congress. Comey did not until he was cornered. There are rules.
     
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    The Whitehouse is frothing with the "fake" news response for everything and rarely makes sense.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah no, they report to the president thru DNI . the Congress has oversight responsibilities. Civics lessons at this stage?
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    They work for the administration, they also report to Congress. Quit playing intentionally dense and look it up.
     

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