Enough PC already. History Is!

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Compounded absurdity.
    White Washing history.
    Should we call it Diversity Washing history
    :roflol:


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/f248744b-64a8-3c44-9858-1f196371a308/ss_austin-city-report-on.html
    Austin city report on Confederate monuments
    suggests renaming city

    A new report from Austin, Texas’s Equity Office about existing Confederate monuments suggested changing the city's name. The report identified several neighborhoods and 10 streets named in honor of the Confederacy or William Barton, a slave owner dubbed the “Daniel Boone of Texas," that could be changed, The Austin American-Statesman reported Friday. Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the "father of Texas" — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted. Renaming the state’s capital would most likely require a citywide election . . .



    HISTORY HAPPENED. Stop white washing it. And stop PC Washing it too.
    If you want to take down a statue, it should be replaced with a similar statue.
    Destroying art in public places is as absurd as burning books.
    STOP P.C WASHING HISTORY!


    What next, take Washington off the one dollar bill, and Jackson as attempted off the $20.
    These were honorable and very accomplished men of their time. Not the 21st Century.

    Stop the nonsense on History. It happened!



    Moi :oldman:



    No Canada-1.jpg
    Quite an eradication program :flagcanada: had on Inuit persons.
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    History happened yes, but are the sinners of the past lauded by the continued use of their names for places and thing in current use?
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were they "sinners" when it was the cultural norm.
    The normal of their times.

    Unless one can show they were particularly cruel to their property.

    I believe massa was more benevolent than the Yankee factory worker experienced.
    Yankee factory worker gets sick, hire a new one.
    A slave was property. It would be idiotic not to feed and house your property well enough to thrive and be strong. A new one was very expensive and harder to come by since the importation ceased.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohibiting_Importation_of_Slaves
    The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 (2 Stat. 426, enacted March 2, 1807) is a United States federal law that stated that no new slaves were permitted to be imported into the United States. It took effect in 1808, the earliest date permitted by the United States Constitution.
    This legislation was promoted by President Thomas Jefferson, who called for its enactment in his 1806 State of the Union Address. He had promoted the idea since the 1770s . . . .


    Does Jefferson get to keep his place on the $2 bill?


    Moi :oldman:


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    I don't believe that " normal for the times" is a valid reason to excuse
    Inhuman practices.
    EG. The Holocaust.
    People weren't stupid then so slavery was no more legitimate then than it is now.
    "Massa" was not particularly benevolent if that means he protected his investment and wasn't particularly cruel.
     
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    Current society gets to decide the norms not the dead...
     
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    What the hell are you smoking? The city of Ventura is not supposed to be stuck with pictures, or statues or photographs or vases sitting all through City Hall because someone liked them 75 years ago! They get to change their minds and redecorate, and they can do what they please with the painting of the dancing nude women in the field of daisies that Mayor Herbert Windsor loved in 1897, without asking YOUR permission or approval. If you like the picture, then buy a copy or paint one. If you like the sculpture of Robert E Lee, then buy one or have one made and put it in your front yard. As for changing street names, let Austin figure out what it wants to do about those streets or its own name. I don't live there, I don't care.
     
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    The other side of that history is getting its physicality now: the statue of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., for instance.

    Leave all of it standing for the curious, the thinkers, and the question askers.
     
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    Maybe there should be a limit on the numbers of statues or commemorative street names. If there were only a few statues which remained standing or streets with commemorative names it wouldn't irk people as much.
     
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    Jefferson took Sally to France where she could have remained as a free woman.
    She chose to return and be Mr. Jefferson's number 1 slave.


    Remember the chicken processing factory in "Far and Away".


    Do you have any idea how much in today's money a good, field hand slave
    would have cost in the early 1800's. Lots! And one would wish to get their
    value for their money spent.
    I believe most massas were not the popularly imaged sadists.


    The Yankee Factory model was a more efficient system for the massa.
    I'm sure it would have been figured out without the War Between The States.
     
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    Depends what Massa cut off for the slave escaping bondage..
     
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    Can't we remember any of the good times​
    with statues and street names as well as the name of the capitol of Texas!
     
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    Was remaining in France really an option? Did she have an income?
    What about the children? Did she have any relatives in France?

    I don't know if that sort of freedom would be worth it. Alone, poverty stricken, kids to support, no friends or relatives. It would be a miserable life.
    Don't know about the chicken processing factory.

    Don't know if " most slaveowners" were sadists.
    The living conditions of slaves weren't conducive to good health and happiness.

    Wasn't "freedom" an important part of the reason for independence for the US?
     
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    What good times did you have in mind?
     
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    The good times when there "was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind...” :sniff: :cry:
     
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    This is some Stalingrad **** right here.
     
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    How so?
    Sorry I don't see it.
     
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    Got to rename everything to fit the current orthodoxy.
     
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    How about Sovietsky manure.
     
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    Yeah, we should be celebrating slavers.
     
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    Some of the best founding fathers were slavers.

    Let's not deny them for being of their time and not ours.



    I know, I know. :woot:
    Erase the 3/5ths clause in the Constitution. :rant:
    Just erase it. Gone.
    I never liked it anyways.
     
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    They may have been slavers but they didn't help start a war to protect slavery. At least they admitted that slavery was wrong. I can forgive an imperfect person who was at least ahead of his times. I can't stand celebrating historical figures who moved us backwards.
     
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    Then the name of essential every town, city and country on earth must be changed. All the antiquities of the world must be destroyed as much all buildings, art and documents over 200 years old. The Pyramids much be obliterated, all of the historic districts of Rome and every other major city in the world. Virtually everything in every museum must be destroyed. The Great Wall of China much be bulldozed down. So must the White House and the capital building of nearly every state and country.
    Oh, and jjust about everyone also has to change their last name.
     
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    It wasn't about slavery. That's Yankee talk.

    It was about the Rights of States.

     
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    What about all the child labor sweatshops and horrific discrimination of minorities in the North? All that has to be destroyed an erased too.

    Rewrite history. "The United State first became a county in 1964 with a document called the Civil Rights Act...
    No, erase that. We have to start it when women were given equality rights under federal law...
    No, erase that. We have to start when gay were given equal rights...
    No, erase that. We have to start US history when...

    Oh, and absolutely we MUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY - THE PARTY OF SLAVERY, THE CIVIL WAR, RACIAL DISCRIMINATION,THE KKK..."
     
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    History isn't what it used to be.
     
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