Equal Benefits for Veterans and Their Same-Sex Spouses Denied By House GOPers

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by TheChairman, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Papastox

    Papastox Well-Known Member

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    What you fail to report is that same sex marriage is illegalin 31 states. You just can't bypass state law. You can't usurp states' rights.
     
  2. TheChairman

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    You should certainly know by now that every time a lawsuit is initiated against a state by a same-sex couple and it goes to Federal Court the state ban on SSM is quickly shot down by the court(s). You have to remember that the Federal courts have great power and jurisdiction over the states and can rule against them at any time and the states must comply with that ruling unless overturned by a higher court. Therefore, it may be 31 states, if you're right on that, but that can only mean that same-sex couples in those states need to get busy and challenge those unfair laws so that they can get quickly shot down by the courts and people can enjoy their well-deserved happiness and freedom in marriage as should be and as their Heterosexual counterparts now have.
     
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    You read about Sodom and Gomorrah?
     
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    Certainly! But this matter has nothing to do with S&G unless you are living in a monastery where church law is the ruling party as in a Theocracy.

    People have forever used Sodom and Gomorrah as their basis to discriminate against Gay Americans but they are wrong in using that Scripture as it does not speak to homosexuality at all despite their beliefs. It speaks to something quite different and the use of inappropriate Scripture like that has caused many Gays and Lesbians to become seriously hurt by bigots and those who continue to discriminate against LGBT individuals and it has even caused their deaths. But I suspect you do not care about that and perhaps even relish the thought that it has. How pitiful to know that such a person exists who would feel that way, with your blurb of S&G.

    For a better understanding of what Sodom and Gomorrah is all about, please read the following:

    The Sin Of Sodom According To Jesus Was NOT Homosexuality
    http://www.gaychristian101.com/Sin-of-Sodom.html
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    How do you feel about cannibalism? Scary to think, but some people are not tolerant pursue cannibals. You just look like a hunted on Hannibal Lecter.
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    The US federal courts are restricted in their authority to hear cases. This is outside their jurisdiction.
    The Judicial Power of the Federal Courts.

    By Publius Huldah.

    1. “Judicial Power” refers to a court’s power to hear and decide cases. Art. III §2, U.S. Constitution, lists the cases which federal courts are permitted to hear. They may hear only cases:

    a) Arising under the Constitution, or the Laws of the United States, or Treaties made under the Authority of the United States [1] [“federal question” jurisdiction];

    b) Affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers & Consuls; cases of admiralty & maritime Jurisdiction; or cases in which the U.S. is a Party [“status of the parties” jurisdiction];

    c) Between two or more States; between a State & Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States;[2] or between a State (or Citizens thereof) & foreign States, Citizens or Subjects[3] [“diversity” jurisdiction].

    These are the ONLY cases which federal courts have constitutional authority to hear! Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist No. 83, 8th para:


    …the judicial authority of the federal judicatures is declared by the Constitution to comprehend certain cases particularly specified. The expression of those cases marks the precise limits beyond which the federal courts cannot extend their jurisdiction, because the objects of their cognizance being enumerated, the specification would be nugatory if it did not exclude all ideas of more extensive authority.
     
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    All that a plaintiff would need to do is allege that the rule is unconstitutional discrimination in violation of the 14th amendment and the courts would have jurisdiction.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heard the story, yup. Nightmare on Elm Street and Aliens were scarier.





     
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    What are my feelings about cannibalism? Great you asked that question. It's obvious Republicans are well engaged in that according to these stories and have been for a long time as history shows and even some of their own speaking about it. It's just great to see them eating their own. ;) :)

    Republicans cannibals… when are you going to stop eating your own?
    http://elenaives.com/2012/08/21/republicans-cannibals-stop-eating/

    Specter assails ideological 'cannibalism' in Senate in farewell speech
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/21/AR2010122103054.html

    Breaking: SARAH PALIN UNLOADS ON ROMNEY and “Cannibals of GOP Establishment”
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...bals-of-gop-establishment/?PageSpeed=noscript
     
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    Clear. Judging by the genre you liked movies and love for same-sex marriage., You're a fan of Satan. Do you like Obama. But, as the Germans say ...
    [​IMG]
     
  11. TheChairman

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    I strongly suspect that you are one of the ones who would see nothing wrong with anti-Gay bigots going out and taking the life of someone just because they were Gay or Lesbian.
     
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    Gibberish.





     
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    Sick!

    Your comment falls into the category of "emotional disability due to lack of human and reality based feelings!"
     
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    It's not really surprising to see that the thread got into definitions of perversion, descriptions of 'natural' behaviour and religious references. Everybody has some stuff they won't budge on and homophobes are no different to that. In my opinion, gay rights will be equalised in the same context that gender rights are. There will still be inequality but we're moving the right direction. The increased noise from its detractors is to make up from the ground that they are losing. Society is shifting, for better or worse, it is shifting. As it usually does.
    As to the article, essentially I'm reading that being anti-gay is a stronger motivator than being pro-veteran for a section of the USA's legislature. That is very sad but I'm guessing the platform that these poli's run on is dependent on them taking this stance? More's the pity. I hope it works out.
     
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    That is incredible. After all, the way things are going today, I'm surprised that they didn't call for a national holiday celebrating the wonderful goodness of homosexuality.
     
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    It must mean something? Or is it a random set of letters?
     
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    To be honest. I do not care who and how to love each other. I against the propaganda of sexual and moral perversion. I against propaganda of mental illness. Homosexuality - a mental illness. Homosexuals should be treated. If a person claims that he is Napoleon, it is isolated from society and treated. If a man claims that he is a woman - it's just a disease. A split personality. Paranoia. Mental illness. This will confirm you any psychiatrist.
    What is happening in Western countries now well described by Orwell. Dictator, bombing Libya, etc., received the Nobel Peace Prize. Homosexuality was elevated to the rank of the foundations of the cultural code of society. The people of the Western countries, reading Western media deprived brain. (wonder, how people can live without a brain. Or Western society is no longer the people? A mutants?)
    Western society ... No. Not Orwell ... Kafka. His novels are more accurately describe modern Western society.
    But if you go back to Orwell. Remember? "If all of society lies, the truth is extremism."
     
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    I asked myself the same questions.






     
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    With this known in EU.
    [​IMG]

    So all is not lost. You begin to think. A little more effort and you maybe begin to understand
     
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    It's interesting you cite Orwell....and want "homosexuals treated for mental illness".

    I suppose even if they don't WANT to be "treated" or consider themselves "mentally ill"?

    Would it be like the Soviets who treated political dissidents as "mentally ill".....or more like O'Brien and Room 101...and you'd strap rat-cages to the faces of the homosexuals and told them "Embrace sexual attraction to the opposite sex...or I release the rats?"
     
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    You doth protest too much.

    You need to read the following well.

    What the Professional Organizations Say
    http://teachthefacts.org/resources-professionalorgs.html

    Study finds genes on X chromosome linked to male homosexuality
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/...on-x-chromosome-linked-to-male-homosexuality/

    LGBT Science Exploring the origins of sexual orientation and gender identity
    http://www.lgbtscience.org/

    Geneticist Dean Hamer Testifies In Hawai'i On The Biological Origins Of Homosexuality
    http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2013/11/38001/
     
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    More gibberish.




     
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    First off, Orwell was a democratic socialist. If he was alive today, he would probably support gay marriage. He isn't the beacon of conservatism you seem to thing.

    Secondly, being different is not a defect. You have the logic of a schoolyard bully for thinking otherwise. Homosexuality hurts nobody. Mental illness hurts the sufferer. And before you bring up the high rates of mental illness associated with homosexuality, people like you cause that. Your bigotry is mental torment and it causes suicide.

    I don't give a damn what you think perversion is. You're just appealing to popularity. I also don't give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about your god or your holy book as I believe in neither, so don't even try to bring those up.
     
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    We will ram it down your throat until you gag to death.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what nature's intention is for anything, or that nature can have intentions, or that nature even exists outside of a concept.

    No, nobody has to explain (*)(*)(*)(*) to you or anybody else.

    If homosexuality was the majority, there would be no jeopardy of the species. Homosexuals can and do procreate. Try thinking before you post.
     

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