Equal Benefits for Veterans and Their Same-Sex Spouses Denied By House GOPers

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    This is demagoguery.
     
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    My thoughts exactly. This is a 14th Amendment issue and it will only be resolved by SCOTUS, not Congress.
     
  3. Polydectes

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    So the psychosis of being homosexual is believing you are the opposite sex or Napoleon?

    I know I am male and definitely not Napoleon. I am also homosexual. Your thesis is flawed. Try again.

    If you insist that homosexuality is a mental illness, please explain the psychosis, and describe the method in which you discovered this psychosis. Or site scientist's work.
     
  4. Polydectes

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    Actually your argument was.

    You asserted that homosexuality was perverted.

    What people find perverted is entirely subjective and based only in opinion.

    You asserted that homosexuality was a mental illness, yet you failed to provide the slightest support for that claim.

    It is quite popular to appeal to people based on prejudices against homosexuality. You even used a rather blatant canard that homosexuality was a mental illness. You didn't use a rational argument.

    What you posted was demagoguery.

    I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. As far as you thinking homosexuality is perverted, everybody is entitled to their opinion. But feel free to prove it is a mental illness.
     
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    In the International Classification of Diseases of the World Health Organization to its 9 edition inclusive homosexuality was classified as a disease.
    Diagnosis egodistonic homosexuality in ICD-10 remains,- as the patient's desire to change their sexual orientation due to additional existing psychological and behavioral disorders.
    Many doctors and public figures argue that homosexuality depathologization occurred not as a result of changes in scientific concepts, and as a result of pressure "gay lobby"
     
  6. Polydectes

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    Existing psychological disorders? So homosexuality is only a mental illness of there are existing psychological disorders? That seems to really confirm that there is no real psychosis regarding homosexuality, but there is if the homosexual individual is depressed. Seems easier just to say they are depressed being that homosexuality isn't necessarily responsible for it.


    You can't "depathologize" something if you can't name the pathology. If doctors and "public figures" could link a pathology, or psychosis to homosexuality, maybe I would stop laughing.
     
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    Not all mental disorders involve psychosis.
     
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    But all mental disorders cause suffering or impaired functioning. Being gay or bisexual causes neither. Trying to call being gay a mental illness is like trying to call having a tan a physical illness.
     
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    That's why the APA is debating removing pedophilia as a mental disorder. And inability of homosexual sex to perpetuate the human species would be considered to be an impaired function by many.
     
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    A mental disorder is a thought or behavior pattern that causes suffering. That suffering it's called psychosis. If it doesn't have the psychosis, it isn't a mental disorder.

    Sorry, all mental disorders have a psychosis. The psychosis is the effects of the disorder. If there is no psychosis, the behavior pattern isn't disordered even if it is strange.

    You should look up these words before you make a fool of yourself.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    You really ought not talk about things you don't understand.

    Nobody would ever say that The homosexual sex to procreate is an impairment. What an ignorant thing to say. Nobody ever stated that humans are asexual.

    So it isn't an impairment. Impairment would be an ability that did exist which doesn't any more.
     
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    That would be called the psychosis. So Dixon is incorrect.

    Nail on the head.

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    Prove it.
     
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    Of course Gays and Lesbians can procreate. You evidently haven't heard of the many Gays who marry their Lesbian friends and being just friends, as a couple they have children (the Straight way) because they want them but after that they continue to live their separate lives with members of their own gender. Their marriage was mainly one of convenience in order to give their children a name but not designed to mean that even though they may continue to live together in the same house (as mere roommates, rather than as husband and wife, simply in order to defray individual costs) that they are continuing to have sexual relations that they obviously are not having, in favor of much preferring to go their own separate ways on that issue. The only exception would be if they were both bi-sexual.

    As for you and your dog hiring a surrogate mother to do what you have said here......very interesting! Didn't know you were so open-minded and into that. Small world but live and learn. ;)
     
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    Actually they have and it's coming up OCTOBER 11TH! There are also many other holidays in honor of Gay Pride.

    IMPORTANT DAYS
    http://www.algbtical.org/2A DAYS.htm
     
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    Actually, it is the well-deserved aggressive fight for EQUAL Rights that you see going on by those who continue to be so unfairly marginalized by bigoted people who do not understand about Gay and Lesbian citizens and the fact that they are guaranteed and entitled to the same rights under the Fourteenth Amendment. And the " .... aggressive response of society." is nothing more than their bigoted fear of losing their grip on the continuation of hate and discrimination that has won them elections by those not intelligent enough to think for themselves.
     
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    Then the following professional medical and scientific organizations and associations that have found just the opposite to be true sure need for you to go directly to them and explain that they are ALL wrong. I'd love to see you do that and see what kind of response you get.

    What the Professional Organizations Say
    http://teachthefacts.org/resources-p...ionalorgs.html

    Study finds genes on X chromosome linked to male homosexuality
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/1...homosexuality/

    LGBT Science Exploring the origins of sexual orientation and gender identity
    http://www.lgbtscience.org/

    Geneticist Dean Hamer Testifies In Hawai'i On The Biological Origins Of Homosexuality
    http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2013/11/38001/
     
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    Generally a gay COUPLE is considered to be both two people of the same sex, AND gay.
     
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    No, psychosis isn't defined as "suffering or impaired functioning"
     
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    gop doesn't believe in equality and instead prefers separate but equal....
     
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    I didn't define it that way. I said that the psychosis is the pathology, to a mental illness. Psychosis exists when a behavior or mental thought process causes suffering.

    If there is no psychosis thought process or behaviour that causes suffering, there is no illness.
     
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    No, psychosis is the pathology to only some mental disorders.

     
  22. Polydectes

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    Okay, since we have to split hairs. What is the pathology associated with homosexuality?

    List any negative effects of this supposed condition.
     
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    What's the difference between a gay and a lesbian?
     
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    Liberals are not any different at all.

    Neither are homosexuals.
     
  25. Polydectes

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    So homosexuals liberals and conservatives are all the same thing? No wonder you have difficulty debating.

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    Gay is sometimes meant as only make homosexuals, lesbian describes only female homosexuals.
     

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