European MP's suspect Manning is being tortured

Do you not understand the word 'alleged', or do you have comprehension issues? I used 'alleged' because there has been no proof offered as yet. Try reading posts thoroughly before you get hysterical.

 

Suicide watch and solitary confinement isn't torture.

 

Iran hasn't fully cooperated with its voluntarily assumed disclosure obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. That's what the IAEA says.

In contrast America has no obligation whatsoever to make any sort of disclosure regarding Bradley Manning. He is an American national, not a prisoner of war. The Geneva Convention and its ancillary agreements do not cover Manning.

 

There are no credible allegations that Manning has been tortured. None.

There is only supposition. No serious person has alleged that Manning is being tortured. Not his attorney, not any one.

 

I believe that the UN Convention Against Torture covers Manning. The USA is a UN member state. http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cat.html

 

An allegation is an allegation. Neither you nor I are in a position to make an assertion either way unless proof is offered. You can't prove he hasn't been tortured, and I can't prove that he has. However, the record of US torture of suspects either by proxy or internally speaks for itself.

 

States which have Signed but not yet Ratified the Convention Against Torture
Belgium
Bolivia
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Gabon
Gambia
Iceland
Indonesia
Morocco
Nicaragua
Nigeria
Sierra Leone
Sudan
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No treaty binds America unless it has been ratified by the United States Senate. Barack Obama has not presented the treaty to the US Senate for ratification. Thus, America has no legal disclosure obligations under international law regarding the treatment of Bradley Manning. You got nothing.

 

Please, fred, tell us of just one injustice that has fallen upon shoulders of trooper Manning? Was it his arrest for violating his oath to follow the orders of his superior officers? Arrest for intentionally giving aid to our enemies? Arrest for stealing government property?

As to the torture; every person that goes to prison for just about any reason has to be strip searched. Isolation is boring but not torture.

As far as these 50 members of European parliament; hadn't they better look around and see if they can stop the torture that their own actions have caused the people of Europe. Those actions putting millions of people in greater danger that Manning is in and causing those people more suffering than Manning will suffer for the rest of his life in military custody?

 

I don't have the burden of proof because I am not asserting the truth of the allegations. My obligation to go forward with the evidence does not arise until you have carried the burden of establishing the credibility of the allegations of torture.

 

Ask his attorney.

 

No more than the sadness felt when any injustice occurs . But extreme concern for the US which is in so much denial that it happily takes on the mantle of a Terrorist State without any glimmer of understanding .

 

Figures. Another cop-out by the immoral United States. And we all know what a great respecter of international law America is-but only when it suits you. If a decision goes against you, America decides that the International Courts are invalid and not recognised. No double standards there then.

 

I was asking a simple question because i didnt know the answer. Thank you for answering by not answering.

 

Buddhist monks and nuns in Tibet are burning themselves to death through self-immolation in protest of Han Chinese human rights violations. Britain remains silent for all intents and purposes.

Britain must go its own way alone. The Anglo-American relationship is one in which the Anglos hector, harangue and harass America. Screw that. Your world is coming to an end. Sux for you.

 

To the best of my knowledge Private Manning has waived his right to a speedy trial and the proceeding has not been scheduled.

 

Look at your own hopeless economy and your dismal manufacturing base before you accuse someone else of failing. Sux for you too mate.

 

America has no legal obligation to you folks. The sooner the Anglo-American relationship totally dies the better. America and Britain should have the same relationship that El Salvador has with Angola.

 

Can we at least agree that Britain and America should have no relationship other than nominal diplomatic ties, and ordinary trade?

 

What makes you think he hasn't taken a plea bargain rather than facing a Courts Martial? He isn't likely to be charged with treason even though he did knowingly and intentionally give aid to our enemies.

 

Dont you think that information would have made it to the news somewhere?

 

Manning will never get a fair trial anyway, so what is the point? The American justice system is a joke.

 

yep... good call

 

There aren't many countries where the government will give a fair trial to someone in Manning's position.

For example, if he was a Chinese citizen who did this to their government, he'd be dead by now.

Even in most countries that are considered "First World," doing what Manning did either ends in indefinite detainment or "disappearance."

I'm sure Australia is no exception.

 

Arrogance, exceptionalism, and parochialism, all in a few short lines, coupled with an evident lack of empathy with someone from your own country.

Albert, sometimes I wonder about you...