European MP's suspect Manning is being tortured

Are you sure?

Your media routinely use the words 'regime change', about the latest target that the criminal elites want to invade, and millions of Americans at home suck up the lies and deceptions. These lies and deceptions cost the lives of hundreds of thousansd of innocent dead, all over the world. It also costs the lives of Americans.

I would say that is pretty 'evil', would you not?

Indeed, successive US Gov's have a long and ignoble history of engaging in acts of great 'evil', against their own people, and others.

You just don't believe them evil, because they are good at telling you they are not evil.

 

Well it seems to have got out into the 'media', otherwise it would not be getting discussed here.

That said, you don't by any chance think that the political elites work in conjunction with media corps, to decide what to show you, and how to sell it to you, do you?

 

China resists any foreign intermeddling in its internal affairs. The same policy works for America.

 

These days they seem to skip the trial, assume guilt, and criminally murder their enemy of the moment.

Hey, Manning may 'commit suicide' before he gets to trial.

The the corporate and political elites can throw nuts to monkeys, by telling them that he had 'suffered from depression', 'had deeply regretted his actions, at the end', etc, etc. And the monkey's will eat the nuts, as monkey's do.

It's also interesting to note that some (I stress some), Americans have actually gone well past the stage of merely accepting harm on innocent non Americans, they now show a total disregard and a total lack of empathy for one of their own countrymen, who has only been accused of doing something by the same lying elites, who lie all the time.

This is an interesting twist, for when a society has been shaped so that it wil automatically believe and even endorse anything The State does, even to their own people, it reminds me of the Germans who were prepared to turn their back on fellow Germans, merely because the ruling elite had brainwashed them into doing so, on the basis that they were the wrong kind, politically or otherwise.

 

China generally keeps out of the affairs of OTHERS better than America does.

How about going all the way, and copying their policy(sic) of that?

 

I'm all in favor of adopting the Chinese approach.

 

Sorry, but I refuse to accept this line anymore, no offence, Serfin.

This benign acceptance toward what seems to me like something rather malevolent, within the US elite. What China would or would not do, it besides the point. I thought Americans once would have looked at China as an example of what not to be, based on their human rights record, among other things? You may as well then adopt the most extreme measure from a variety of nations, and apply it as part of the new American way.

Also, have you considered that anyone that the criminal elites want to kill or keep quiet, is often not an enemy of the people at all, but a hero of the people. Whistleblowers perform an over important role, these days - in a World of lying elites, they give us more insight into the affairs of said elites.

The elites do not like to be accountable, they do not like to answer to people. Whistleblowers are true champions of people, and the enemy of the criminal class + their useful idiots.

Jack

 

Less/non interventionist?

No presence in the Middle East?

No more welfare cheques to Israel?

No more arming Israel?

You good with that?

 

Yes.

Yes.

NOOOOO. If Israel has the cash they can buy whatever they want. Jobs for Americans in weapons manufacturing are too important. Jobs and more jobs. Let the Israelis and Palestinians solve their own problems. If the Palestinians have cash to pay on the barrel head they can buy weapons too. Jobs trumps everything else.

 

That is not what I asked.

I asked if you support ending the welfare cheque of billions, undemocratically taken from the pockets of American workers, to give to Israel?

 

Jack, the party is over. Not one red cent from America to any foreign country under any circumstances. Zero. Nada. Not an effin pence or pound sterling.

 

Well, most of your aid goes to Israel.

So, when you end that, in this America of yours, how do you think they will respond to that?

 

I'll second that.

1) 15 trillion in debt and climbing

2) you cant buy allies.

 

But you're quite happy with America meddling in the internal affairs of other nations, yes?

 

This article sounds like speculation to me..

 

I don't know. I would guess that the Israelis would do a cost/benefit analysis.

If I were in their shoes I would look at the fact that the Muslim world will never accept the existence of a Jewish State, the likelihood that the future balance of power will not be in their favor, and I would strike first with total ruthlessness since America was no longer around to act as a restraint. But that's just me.

 

Well said. These days my news source is Private Eye. Ok, its raison d'etre is satire, but there's real hard news in there which the mainstream media won't touch, as well as exposure of those elites who continue to seek out new ways to shaft us. It should be required reading.

 

You seem like a scholar and a gentleman.

 

That depends. I oppose American involvement in the eastern hemisphere. But America lives in the Western hemisphere.

Imo the next phase of history will see a combination of great power spheres of influence combined with chaos in much of the world.

The western hemisphere is America's sphere of influence. Monroe Doctrine.

 

Those days are over. Here's an American leftist:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204630904577056490023451980.html

 

I get all of my news and analysis from Screw Magazine. It's published in Britain by a bunch of toothless Englishmen.

 

We'll see how far America's influence extends when the rising nations-China, etc-begin to overtake you economically. Waiting in the wings are India, Brazil...
But hey, playing second fiddle isn't all that bad

 

Judging by some of your replies I can imagine. You should try the Eye instead-you'll learn more about America that way.

 

The elites in America intend to form the North American Union stretching from the North Pole to the Isthmus of Panama.

China is in the process of unwittingly summoning an alliance into being against it through its belligerence towards its neighbors.

The great contest of the first half of this century will be between China and India.

You and all toothless Englishmen need to start thinking outside the box.

Britain needs to evacuate the Orangemen from Eire.

 

Britain is deficient in both humor and dental hygiene.