FBI admits it didn't investigate tip on alleged school shooter

lets see.hhmmmmm...FBI...Federal Bu....its the third letter!

 

So your stance is because they get so many tips they shouldnt have investigated this? BS. They dropped the ball again or they are purposely not investigating these nuts. which is it?

 

Oh I know. That would have been part of the next question if the answer was confiscate the guns but no one has even tried to answer the question - they have not gone past blaming the FBI

 

"Making terroristic threats" is a felony. It justifies an immediate arrest, and the court can confine a suspect pending mental evalution. Persons out on bail can't purchase or carry a gun pending case resolution.

 

Apart from saying that he wanted to be a "professional school shooter" what other threats did he make? You are going to have a tough time using that statement as being a terrorist threat.

 

We could take away a lot of freedoms, and do a lot of damage to stupid young people, trying to stop this.

I read about a case in Canada where some poor kid was kept under house arrest for 2 years all because he made a joke about shooting up a school on Facebook which wasn't even worded as a threat.

 

Yeah, that's plenty ... but law enforcement received many more tips and complaints, before and after the 1 you cite. Probable cause for arrest, reasonable suspicion to search. You put the words "school" and "shooter" together, you've opened the door.

 

The FBI receive thousands of tips and complaints every day. Perhaps you can explain what is a "professional school shooter" - a person who is paid to take photographs? Easily written off as a sick joke. There are posters in this small forum making similar statements such as anyone come near me will have to take my gun from my cold hands - Clearly an unstable person in some peoples opinion- should they be reported too

 

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The FBI was warned about the immigrants who bombed the Boston Marathon but also did nothing

Apparently they are too busy spying on trump

 

I did not know that Trump was involved with the Russians in 2013.

 

True

But apparenty obama was interested in the activities of many republicans other than trump

 

The FBI tried to contact him 39 times. A quick check of gun purchases should have meant a face to face. This guy wears his mental instability on his sleeve, and he instantly admits guilt, so doubt he'd have hid his intentions ... IF ASKED. And yes, if crazy cat lady next door says "professional school shooter" I'm tackling her on her front lawn. The cops won't have a choice in sorting it out.

 

It's the police who saw him at his home 39 times. Your first statement would mean that the title of this thread is a lie. He passed all the lax background checks when obtaining his gun - way too easy to get a gun. Guns don't even have to be registered and can be passed on privately without any checks. Admitting guilt after the event is of no substance. You tackle that crazy cat lady for using her first amendment right will end up with you being charged for assault.

 

Not going to explore by what OTHER means he COULD have gotten a gun. I know how this INDIVIDUAL did. The people who ALERTED the FBI are speaking out. Listen to what they're saying about their experiences. Crazy cat lady and I would be judged by a jury of our peers. I have no problem with that at all.

 

They should have conducted a face to face interview and an investigation to asesss if the threat from this guy was real. After determining he was a clear and present danger and would likely shoot up a school at any moment there should have been round the clock surveillance on him.

 

Like I said, he passed all the ridiculously lax background checks when buying his gun

 

So that's 4 FBI guys per student in the country.

Set unrealistic expectations on your police and they will fail to meet them.

 

I never knew that it was so easy to prove someone is a clear and present danger and will shoot up a school. Surely he should be jailed at that time since evidence is so compelling. oh, how long will he be under round the clock surveillance, a week, a month, a year, many years? BTW, at what point are you going to take his guns away?

 

Noticed that you couldn't actually answer the question! Amazing that not one of the people that want to blame the FBI seem to have an answer to such a simple question.

 

Um, Russian meddling in our election process is a home affair!

 

Did you read the article about the FBI / ATF confiscating 4000+ fireams in 2017? When the FBI fails to issue a restriction of sales to firearms dealers within the allotted time, the purchase is allowed. 4000+ times in 2017 ineligible people bought guns. We've yet to determine if similar failures to adhere to current registration laws contributed to this also. I have no issue with mental health restrictions. I'm not posting about gun rights ... systemic deficiencies are what concerns me.

 

It's pretty obvious the guy was a complete nut job with a long record of police calls about his behavior. Add to that the fact that he owned guns that he did and he warrants watching for as long as it takes. There arer calls now for armed security at every school in America so I don't think keeping tabs on this guy for as long as he's considered a threat would be out of hand. If that had occurred and he was stopped by the FBI as he approached the school with his weapon and extra magazines the FBI would be the hero instead of the goat and 17 people would still be alive today. You and others in here seem willing to shrug your shoulders and promote the agenda of see something say nothing because nothing can be done anyway. I strongly disagree.

 

Not all the 39 calls over 7 years to his house were about his behavior. Little doubt that there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of US homes have a similar number of call outs. You say that he was a complete nut job (which I agree) yet he was still able to get a gun in, I believe, one visit to the shop. That school he attacked had armed guards.

 

They first could have investigated his online postings and used those as the basis for a search warrent of his home

And then have him examined by a shrink

Now, what would the FBI do if he said he wanted to be a professional obama family shooter?