First Look: African American Museum Opening on National Mall

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  1. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    They are white only because that's the focus. No one cares about that though like they shouldn't care about a museum focused on black history and culture. We have many ethnic museums across the country, just like we have ethnic restaurants, ethnic neighborhoods, etc. It really is ok that black citizens have a museum too. If it's not a big deal for everyone to have theirs, it shouldn't be a problem for black citizens to have theirs either. Besides, Black history, especially in America is still a part of White history.
     
  2. GrayMatter

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    Your logic would work against what I think you are trying to get at. You'd have to build a Washington monument for Frederick Douglass. You would have to build a Lincoln Memorial for Martin Luther King. You would be very busy. Instead of doing all that, they built a museum.
     
  3. superbadbrutha

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    Pick up a book.

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  4. GrayMatter

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    There are thousands of museums dedicated to White people. Basically all of them that are not specifically labeled for minorities. As there are about 35,000 active museums, I'm going to hazard a guess that about 10% of them are specifically recognizing minority achievements. So let's conservatively say roughly 31,500 are built to recognize 'Whiteness'.

    Coming out with a White museum would simply be redundant. One passing thought would make this obvious to anyone bored enough to consider it.
     
  5. FreshAir

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    no, history is history, a white only museum would not and should not be allowed

    just cause you have a airplane museum and the history is mostly or all whites, does not make it a whites only museum

    now a MLK statue I would be all for... as that is real history and doesn't specifically say Blacks only

    on one your recognizing a great man, in the other your omitting white people

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  6. GrayMatter

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    Not much, just became the first homo sapiens.
     
  7. cupAsoup

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    This is freaking hilarious. Since you never heard of them they don't exist. If the marketing doesn't target you, or is relevant to you, it doesn't exist? Here's a tip; try cracking a book or educating yourself. It's not that hard.

    Nice try at an insult seeing as how he made you look completely foolish and ignorant.
     
  8. Doug_yvr

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    I'm sure the KKK will build something to honor you some day.
     
  9. GrayMatter

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    You introduce the 'only' clause and your argument falls apart. The African American history museum isn't Blacks only. In fact, if it were, how would you reconcile many many many African Americans having European genetics?

    You made up this 'Blacks only' concept.

    I have not been in the African American museum yet, but I think the probability is very high that White people are featured in it.

    It would be just like going to the American history museum and seeing majority exhibits about White people and a few about Black people. It's a museum about Whiteness and the White experience in America - Blacks are a footnote.

    History is not history in my opinion. It depends on the author and his or her biases. If history were completely objective, as I believe you are trying to argue that it is, then there would be no such thing as revision. Human beings can't compose much of anything without bias.

    It's probably natural. If you are White, and the majority of your audience and customers are White, you are going to curate in a way that caters to what they would want to see. The US is White. Most people that go to museums are white by default. And by default, it's set up for a White audience - it's a White museum. I'm not sure how this would be hard to understand.

    If you disagree, how do you disagree?
     
  10. FreshAir

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    it's call the "African American Museum", be no different the the "White European museum" in a mall

    and both are ok, just not on the tax payer dime

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  11. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    How many "holocaust" museums have the Jews scattered around the country, 100 or more?
     
  12. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Maybe 440 years of slavery and Jim Crow has been a major negative factor on blacks being entrepreneurs in racist America? And you can't say America isn't racist when that's its history.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have tried and tried to recall the great black riots during FDR and during Truman and Ike.

    Don't know why it was worse then yet we had no riots.

    Even MLK was not him rioting.

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  14. GrayMatter

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    there are 30,000 Eurocentric museums. Is there a need to call bananas 'yellow bananas'? No, bananas are assumed to be yellow. If someone did put a sign up selling 'yellow bananas' it would be weird. So they don't do it. There is no need to call museums European museums. It is implied.

    If you take issue with tax dollar funding, seperate issue entirely. Have no concern there as you did not make any logical errors with that comment.
     
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    The presence or absence of riots had nothing to do with conditions.

    What?
     
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    """""""""""yes this is what your tax payers dollars are hard at work for now"""""""

    :clapping: :applause: :cheerleader:



    such a nice change from supporting war and investment bankers....
     
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    I'm looking forward to the shuck and jive, riot and drive by sections when they open up.
     
  18. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Oh, you mean like the 1935 Harlem race riot when black people got tired of being beaten up by racist thug cops and not having any jobs?
    http://www.blackpast.org/aah/harlem-riot-1935

    Are you thinking about the 1943 Detriot race riot that showed the world that America was full of crap about democracy and equal rights?

    http://www.detroits-great-rebellion.com/Detroit---1943.html

    Or maybe it's the 1943 Beaumont, Texas, race riot in which whites attacked blacks and destroyed their property?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_race_riot_of_1943

    Then there's the 1944 Fort Lawton race riot in Washington State in which the Army railroaded 43 black Soldiers.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lawton_riot

    Don't forget about the 1946 Columbia race riot in which the cops went on a rampage against the blacks in the town.
    http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entry.php?rec=296

    There's a lot more. It pays to read history before making comments about things that can be easily verified.

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    Ragarding owning slaves maybe you are thinking about slavers Like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or Andrew Jackson. They were big racists.
     
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    No, I said that "nearly everything that ever made America the richest, most prosperous, powerful, and free country in the world was due primarily to the ingenuity, dedication, sacrifices, and energy of White people". White people are (believe it or not) still the majority of Americans. And, as such, it was up to White people to make or break this nation. History records exactly what I wrote, or do you want to make yourself look silly by denying it...?

    I said that "nearly everything that ever made America the richest, most prosperous, powerful, and free country in the world was due primarily to the ingenuity, dedication, sacrifices, and energy of White people". White people are (believe it or not) still the majority of Americans. And, as such, it was up to White people to make or break this nation. History records exactly what I wrote, or do you want to make yourself look silly by denying it...?

    You're another one who's misconstrued what I said, and what I conjectured. First of all you have accused me of saying that my "view is that whites are supreme to blacks"... right? The word, "supreme" is badly selected... perhaps you meant, "superior" to blacks...(?). But that is NOT what I said, either.

    I said that "nearly everything that ever made America the richest, most prosperous, powerful, and free country in the world was due primarily to the ingenuity, dedication, sacrifices, and energy of White people". White people are (believe it or not) still the majority of Americans. And, as such, it was up to White people to make or break this nation. History records exactly what I wrote, or do you want to make yourself look silly by denying it...?

    Three up, three down....

    Hint: THE REASON SO MANY MUSEUMS ARE FULL OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF WHITE PEOPLE IS BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE HAD SO MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS. :eekeyes: Think about it.... White people started out living in "Stone Age" civilizations, just like Black and Asians. But, Whites and Asians advanced far beyond that. Whites gave us Greece, Rome, Western Europe, and ultimately, the Americas. Asians civilizations were very possibly the most advanced on Earth until the Renaissance!

    But Black civilization remained almost entirely at primitive levels, with warring tribes living in simple villages, practicing slash-and-burn agriculture, and hunting animals for food. They captured and sold each other into slavery, where, under admittedly disgusting, horrible situations, they were broadly exposed to White civilization, and through the centuries they have advanced along with those of other races. Deny or rationalize it if you wish, those are the simple facts....

    Prediction: within 200 years from now there will be only one race -- a mixture of all of the best parts of White, Black, and Asian races. And, yes, THAT will be a very good thing, indeed! And we'll have museums full of all of those accomplishments, too. :smile:
     
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    What are smoking?
     
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    I seriously cannot stand the President.
     
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    You do realize that black folks sold black folks to the slave traders in Africa?
     
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    I realize that is what we were taught by white folks in America.
     
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    And you and the ilk that resides in your "community" can't prove any different.
     
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    I have never seen a book with black "palaces". Unless you're referring to the Mosques of Arabs who enslaved blacks, castrated or killed the men, used the women as sex slaves, and then killed the resulting babies? Those castles?
     

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