German investigation on MH-17 concludes plane shot down by Russian terrorists.

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  1. Pro-Consul

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    Not really, vapour trails don't automatically form just because an object is in the air.
     
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    I am not an expert, I have 0 knowledge about weapons and such, BUT wouldn't plain logic conclude that the bullet holes in the cockpit, nowhere else, must have come from a board weapon of the accompanying fighter jets, because the holes are all the same size? If they were made by missile shrapnel, they would be odd sizes and shapes. Shrapnel is not uniformly even and of the same size. Did anybody consider that? AND, as I said, they were only found in the cockpit walls. SO, someone shot deliberately from close range directly into the cockpit, which depressurized the cockpit and instantly killed the pilots.
    Where are the bodies of the pilots? Those bodies must be somewhere and it could very well be possible that those bodies show bullet- or shrapnel wounds. Why has nobody investigated that?

    There is something very fishy and foul about this incident, and it is clear as daylight that someone doesn't want to let the truth come out.
     
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    No. Bullets don't make such enormous holes on metal
    It is blatantly clear that the fuselage was struck by an exploding missile.
    Also it is physically impossible for the pilots of either of those two Su 25's to be able to attack MH-17 at that range and at the distance between them as well as at the height and velocity that they were at.
    Which they are.
    Even if it were possible; that would be the dumbest thing to do.
    Unfortunately when bodies hit the ground at high speed they tend to disintegrate.
    God that's vague.
     
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    Well, I gave it a try!
    Btw, the bodies did not disintegrate! They were clearly visible in photos.
     
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    The holes weren't of uniform shape or size. AND, since they are on the side of the plane, moving 100s mph perpendicular to the direction of any jet that could have fired upon the jet, it would be a physical impossibility for a machine gun to leave such a close pattern of bullet holes.
    And missiles such as the BUK, with proximity fuses that detonate before they hit the target, leave precisely the type of damage, when the explode, spraying fragments of a similar size
     
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    Autopsies of the pilots could be very telling. The preliminary report even mentioned something about it. Any shrapnel/bullet fragments could be identified as to their source.

    Unfortunately, even after having the bodies for nearly 2 months before making the report, no results were released.
     
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    100% agree
     
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    Who is afraid of Russia or the russians, I fear my own elected officials and the trigger happy militarized Gestapo-like police forces far more! Or a homeland security who bought billions of military grade ammo Far far far more! I fear FEMA who has contingency plans for death camps ok maybe not death camps but marshal law and other nefarious endeavors far more than I fear anything in or about russia. In any case who knows what really happened to that Jet. I am deeply saddened for the people that must have experienced the horror first hand. I just pray that the end was quick.

    reva...

    Hey I wonder if FEMA has lost any ground to air rockets?
     
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    Do you have some reason to believe you would even have any contact with militarized Gestapo-like police forces or Homeland Security? You might want to question some of your choices if so.
     
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    Better late than never. The Dutch will finally approach Moscow for more information and request official radar data. They are moving in the right direction. Categorically claiming that the plane was brought down by a missile launched by Donbas freedom fighters is simply foolish.

    MH17 prosecutor open to theory another plane shot down airliner: Der Spiegel

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/27/us-ukraine-crisis-mh-idUSKBN0IG1X420141027


     
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    [video=youtube;0KYcql7sfpk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=0KYcql7sfpk[/video]
    Kurigyan about BUK, its clear that the terrorists have had it
     
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    This is disinformation from west intelligence to meddle the water. It's not an AK-47 rifle. It's a system need a well trained professional team to operate. Do you think the pro-Russia militia shot it by pushing a button?

     

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