Going Birther on Ted Cruz: I didn’t want to do it

You got it - a Naturalized Citizen , AMERIKANSKIY PARTIZAN

 

The Constitution doesn't DEFINE who is a natural born/citizen at birth.. the code does.. Try reading it..

 

You got that right --- according to me , Partizan, Naturalized, Citizen, American

 

Margot is correct.

there are only two ways of becoming a citizen of the USA.

at birth, and by application.

 

They are working overtime to make this complicated and its not.

 

Yepp. My child was born overseas but is still a natural born US citizen, since I am a US citizen. It's really that simple.

 

No, it's not. Why have to specific terms for the same thing ?

Naturalized citizen = me, because parents both immigrated to the US when I was three and became citizens

Citizen at birth = Ted Cruz because he was born in Canada and moved to the US when he was four, but had an American mother

Natural Born Citizen = Obama, because he was born in Hawaii which is one of our 50 states.

 

Update! http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/tru...tioning-ted-cruzs-right-to-run-for-president/

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Update! Trump backers file federal lawsuit questioning Ted Cruz’s right to run for president http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/tru...tioning-ted-cruzs-right-to-run-for-president/

 

I don't think there's a chance he'll sue if he holds serve in tonight's debate. If he has a miserable debate all bets are off. He may do it to deflect the media from his performance. Everything Trump says or does is calculated and he's all about controlling the media narrative.

 

Carnival's foreign birth and citizenship, and Li'l Gator's "anchor baby" status (since he happened to be born to foreign parents while on US soil) both present issues for some beyond the legal niceties.

Nativists are troubled by such matters, regardless of the niceties of lawyer's arguments.

 

Using Donald Trump and cheap shot in the same sentence should come as a surprise to no one!

 

does anyone here besides me realize that the Senate could solve this in one day the same way they did with McCain when his citizenship was questioned? Cruz po'ed McConnel by calling him a liar on the Senate floor so McConnell says no resolution for you LOL. The GOP is starting to realize Trump is their only choice if they want to win this fall. Cruz is too far right to win even if he was somehow nominated and thankfully he is way too unlikable to get nominated. The establishment GOP knows that

 

A person can only be a natural born citizen of one nation and Ted Cruz, based upon Canadian law, is/was a natural born citizen of Canada.

Ted Cruz can't be a natural born citizen of the United States because he was not "born in the United States" which is a requirement enumerated in the 14th Amendment. Ted Cruz is only a US citizen based upon the statutory provisions of Title 8 that contains all of the naturalization laws passed by Congress.

All children born to US citizens outside of the United States must have an application for citizenship submitted to, and approved by, the US government before they can become US citizens. A natural born citizen (i.e. a person born in the United States... and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) does not have to apply for citizenship.

 

63 posts on a subject that will never be an issue because Cruz will never be nominated

 

As I said in the OP, it's complicated and ambiguous and I admitted that I just don't know. Could you kindly post a link to the source that you mentioned ?

 

No its not complicated.. Read the statutes.

 

I think some of those that saw it as complicated when it was out first black President are starting to see that now

as for Cruz, he will never be President so it's really a non-issue anyways

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There is no requirement of birth inside Us borders to be a natural born citizen. US code is crystal clear.

 

I believe you are correct:

 

OK, you can insist on that if you wish. As I'm documented, there are those with actual legal training who think that it is and that's what really matters.

 

Show us proof that Cruz's mother voted in Canada.

 

That's your interpretation, although it's not true. It's more important what U.S. law says, not Canadian law.

Cruz was born to a U.S. citizen mother who met the residency requirement, and he is natural born. He may have been a dual member, but he signed off from his Canadian citizenship. Most experts say Cruz is eligible to be President.

 

I did not say that there was proof. I said that it is an issue that has been raised that could have a bearing on the matter. Her name allegedly appeared on a voter roll around the time he was more. You might have noticed that although I despise the guy, I have taken a neutral stance on his eligibility and started this thread just to "kick it around" You on the other hand, seem to be hell bent on making him eligible. Why is that?

 

Tell me what is the purpose of the NBC clause? Originally it was proposed that you must be born in the US to run for president but that was found to be not restrictive enough and was changed to NBC. The two therefore can not be the same thing.

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/06/john-jay-alexander-hamilton-and-the-mystery-of-the-natural-born-citizen-letter/

How anyone can read this and still claim Cruz is an NBC is intellectually dishonest.

 

Oh yeah.. birthers always throw in some rumor.

I don't like Cruz and won't vote for him, but that makes no difference in the statutes or his eligibility. It is what it is.