Heeding Bannon's Call, Election Deniers Organize to Seize Control of GOP

Of course we are. You can never prove THE BIG LIE. You just promote the lie without proof there was anything wrong.

 

What BIG LIE is that?

 

I disagree. Many actually do believe that Biden who didn't hold a rally could possibly get more votes than one who held full house rallies.
They have a brain lock of sorts.

 

A stolen election in 2020. You must have heard about it?

 

Hey, just like the squad has been doing to the democrat party.

 

They support everything ex-President Trump said about the election results being invalid & so deserving of being OVERTURNED.
Their mantra is, "this will not happen again!" IOW, if Trump runs in 2024, they are trying to ensure that Republicans on Boards of Elections will not certify results, in places that need to go for Trump, for him to win, unless Trump actually wins. Otherwise, there will be assumed to have been cheating. This group sees the place of Republican Secretaries of State, for example, as "finding," the additional Trump votes to win him the state; and where that doesn't happen, they want to ensure that Republicans in state legislatures will vote to put aside the popular vote totals and, instead, send a delegation of electors who will vote for Trump. Lastly, if all that doesn't deliver a victory for Trump, they support putting in Congress, Republicans who would not certify the results, but decide the matter in the House of Representatives, where each state would be allotted one vote, regardless of its number of Reps.

So, their whole rationale for being-- while they would call it preventing Democratic cheating; yet, as there has been no substantiation of this alleged election fraud, which has nevertheless been accepted as fact, at Trump's word-- is a contravening of the Democratic process, which is at the heart of our system. Their intent is clear: whatever it takes to make Trump the winner of the election, is what they believe should be done. This prejudging of the winner, is anything but the ensuring of a, "fair," election. So it is not so much specific laws they are against, as supporting an overriding of the election regulations, whenever they do not give them the result that they want.

Gutting our election integrity, is the most central, and consequential, assault possible, on our government, & on the people of our nation.

 

They're still fighting in some states to even have an audit. The results are, as of now, inconclusive.

 

No, not at all. The "squad," is not in favor of abnegating legitimate election results (or of considering any results that they don't like, as illegitimate).

There is a fundamental difference between objecting to the person, who one acknowledges won the election (as did these Dems, in 2016), and making sure that only the person who one wants to win, is allowed to.

 

No. Those who are fighting to audit results, are merely unwilling to accept the fact that, despite there being no evidence that this was not the most secure, accurate election we've ever had, it did not give them the result that they wanted. The results were very conclusive-- belief in substantial 2020 election fraud is a fantasy. There is no proof, despite all of the allegations, none of which were able to show any basis in truth.

To try to change reality, simply by denying it, is a recipe for disaster. I hope you will not part of that camp, by 2024.

 

You can repeat the "no evidence" schtick all ya like. No matter how many times evidence gets presented, it gets ignored, so whatever. You're just repeating your own beliefs as fact without argument. Sorry, it's not convincing.

 

And your point is what? That legal votes should be disallowed, because you think they made a bad choice? Too bad there is no reason to put any greater weight on your opinion, than on anyone else's. And that's just not fair, is it?

 

No. Unfortunately we flooded in a bunch of uneducated voters whom we are stuck with. And America is turning to **** because of it. At the end of the day things will play out as they should. And these piss poor immigration policies on the left will be part of our downfall.

 

As your own words contradict yourself, I am NOT repeating my OWN BELIEFS, as fact, WITHOUT a BASIS-- that is EXACTLY what YOU ARE DOING.

I am trusting the findings of our court system: a great number of judges, in a great number of courts. That qualifies as a factual basis, as opposed to a personal fantasy. Speaking of which, your theory requires all these courts as being blind to evidence. A bit of a stretch, no? In fact, some of those presenting some of these theories that you give credibility, have appeared in court-- when they were sued by the voting machine manufacturer, who they had slandered with their manufactured lies-- and have made the case, themselves, that the things they had said were too incredible to be expected to be taken seriously, by any reasonable person.

So there's that.

 

Sorry, judges that use the excuse "muh laches" don't count. Courts that say, "yes, the law was broken, but we can't do anything about it" don't deserve our trust.
Photos of fraudulent tally sheets in GA have yet to be explained.
I can keep going, but no, your argument is wholly unconvincing.

 

No, America is turning to **** because the politicians in both parties are deepening the divide between us instead of healing it. Political dogma these days is as ridiculous as religious dogma. Hell, political party affiliation IS the new religion in this country. The left and the right are completely garbage, and are nothing but bad for this country.

 

The media is. It's not politicians. Media can form an opinionated narrative around anything said by any politician. But I mean the divide is going to be fairly easy to create when you have a population that isn't majority anything, and instead devised of an equal amount of groups. Be it racial, religious...whatever. Diversity is our strength? Hardly. It's our weakness.

China is aware of the fact that at it's core, humans are tribal. We've always been tribal. We will ALWAYS be tribal. And they will win out because they are strict with their identity and culture.

But whatever. We will get to the bottom of white rage by then. Hopefully!

 

Naturally, then, you would agree with the objection-- consistent with yours, here-- that the new abortion law in Texas should be suspended until all Texas Democrats & Independents who disagree with it, can personally look over all the ballots to make sure that all the Texas legislators who voted for it, were legitimately elected? Because that's the only way we can trust an election result, right?

 

Knock yourself out. Do you have any evidence that would point to the need for an audit? Because we do.

 

And you suggested that those who disagreed with him, then, were out of alignment with Republican Party beliefs. Hence, you were presenting the argument that whatever this, "popular," Republican says, ipso facto, becomes Republican Party orthodoxy.

This is why I'd begun my earlier reply with that comment about arguing with a 4-year old (which I deleted, during the editing window). This is what you do when the facts are against you. You just keep repeating your meritless claims.

Simple question, that I've already asked, & you've already avoided giving a direct response (as described, above), but let's try it, once more. Does one need to support Trump, when he asks you to overturn election results, to be a, "real Republican?" Yes or no?

 

Could you please use conventional English spelling? I have no idea what, "muh laches," is supposed to mean. And/or you could post a link, verifying your claim.

LINK?

LINK?

 

That's Bullsheet. It is the kind of, "evidence," that courts cannot see, because it is dependent on what's in your mind; i.e., it is not, "evidence," at all, in any accepted sense of the word.

So why don't you take that slight further step, and believe that your, "evidence," has resulted in Trump being reinstated, as president? You obviously have the imagination for it.

 

Disagree with him about what?

 

The media and politicians work hand in hand with eachother. Each party has media partners that parrot their messages. It's all about power, for them, not America. People will not always be tribal. But we will continue to be that way when we allow politicians and other elites to get away with it.

I have zero interest in living like China. It is an extremely strong central government that censors and controls their population that allows them to keep that identity and culture. I'd rather live in a land of a million tribes that argue and bicker than in a country that controls how their people think and act.

But even with a million tribes, there is zero reason why they can't get along and work toward common goals. If it wasn't division by race, politicians would find other ways to divide us. We all need to stop listening to them, and stop listening to their messages that the "other side" wants to destroy "our side". It's ridiculous how childish we have all become.

 

That's right. But the media (being mostly left) controls the narrative of both their favored party and that of the opposition. That's how the maga hat became to mean a racist symbol.

Doesn't matter if you have zero interest in living like china. The one that wins out is the one that is most efficient and easy to progress.

Zero reason why they can't get along? Because we've always been tribal. And the groups will always bicker and war and battle for power and control. It's very easy to get two groups to war and strife within the United States. Causing anarchy and regression.

And China laughs.

 

There were two main reasons why Trump lost:

1. They used to say, "It's the economy stupid", but along those same lines, "It's the pandemic stupid". That doesn't mean that Covid was Trump's fault and now we are finding out that it wasn't because Biden is now president while the pandemic surges. But, if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have more than likely, won.

2. The MSM were out to get Trump from day one. While the left thought it was horrible that a foreign country would try interfering in our presidential election, the left seem totally fine with the US media influencing the 2020 election.