Heeding Bannon's Call, Election Deniers Organize to Seize Control of GOP

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  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    IMHO, the OP borders on trolling with the usual liberal appear to emotion and obsession with Trump rather than issues.

    They way things are going it will be a easy win for Republicans in the midterm and next Presidential election. The Biden free money has made people not need to work and therefore it is now becoming impossible to get work done. For example. I contacted someone a couple of weeks ago to do basic carpentry work on my house and he was booked through January. I contacted someone today I have used for over ten years to service my wood stove and clean my chimney. They are out of business. I tried to buy a new hot tub a few weeks ago and if I put $1000 down I got get delivery in a year. The local grocery store has a sign out front offering $500 to anyone who will apply for a job. Forget Trump. Biden is destroying the economy. All the Republicans have to do to win now is run against the piss poor performance of Biden.
     
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    No, how he handled it. Mostly, the division on handling the pandemic.

    People will forget about the Afghanistan withdrawl by Nov 2022, IMO.
     
  3. fullmetaljack

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    Come again ?

    BTW , are you following me ?
     
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    Google it.
     
  5. DEFinning

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    This story IS about an important issue-- the future of the Republican Party-- so your critique falls flat on its face, if your definition of trolling, is just that it mentions Trump. It is, of course, not specifically about Trump, but about his avid & enthusiastic supporters, who are, according to Republican Party chairmen, flooding their ranks with new precinct officers, in a much more dynamic way than did the Tea Partiers. You should know all this, if you'd read my OP with your mind turned to, "ON," but your reply does not seem to relate, in any way; maybe you'd accidentally flipped your brain to, "ONANN," instead.

    Question: would you have considered a contemporary story about the incipient Tea Party to have been news, in 2008/2009? If your answer is "yes," then you have no basis for criticizing my subject. If your answer is "no," it shows how little insight you have into what is, or is not, important political news (so your critique would be only the meaningless mumbling of irrelevant thoughts).
    Speaking of which:
    This is nothing but a groundless, personal assertion. You might just as well be giving us the score of next year's Super Bowl-- how do you know what's going to happen in elections that are more than a year away? And what does your random prediction have to do with my thread? Why don't you address the OP, to back up your criticism of it, as bordering on trolling, "with the usual liberal appea(l) to emotion and obsession with Trump rather than issues?" Or does IMHO, stand for I Must Horribly Obscure?

    BTW, I'm going to leave out your long, personal anecdote, that has nothing to do with this thread, either.

    As a reminder, here are a few paragraphs, from the OP, as quoted from my source, Pro-Publica:




    And this is YOUR post, after having the nerve to begin with calling my thread, "trolling." All I can answer to that, is "Don't let the hypocrisy hit you in the ass, on the way out.
     
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  6. DEFinning

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    Goodwin's law applies only to all those subjects which have nothing remotely to do with Hitler or the Nazis. For example, someone was using Holocaust analogies with me in the thread, which you were also in, about the new Texas abortion law. Perfect example of the ridiculous stretch, of comparing aborted fetuses with those killed in Nazi concentration camps.

    But talking about authoritarian, populist leaders, like Hitler, in a thread about enthralled followers, who want to put our Presidency-- even if he lacks the votes to win it, squarely-- into the hands of someone with a clear, authoritarian bent, is not going off-topic, into Nazism, Goodwin-style. It is a reasonable comparison, of something very similar to Hitler's political cult of personality.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Polydectes misspelled it, as well as misapplied it. He'd meant to write, "Godwin's" law (i.e., that any online debate eventually gets to the point at which someone trots out Hitler & Nazi Germany, to make their point, no matter how far apart the two subjects are).
     
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    How Biden handled it? Cases are surging. That's how Biden handled it.
     
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    All of this presupposes that it was the will of the majority of voters who elected the electors for Biden as opposed to the majority of votes when the odds on likelihood, though far from proven, is that it was the latter -- votes, not voters -- that determined the electors from many states. Trump did not do anything illegal, unethical or untoward in his efforts to get a fair and honest election, except maybe his attempt to get Pence to unconstitutionally control the congressional vote for the president might have been over the edge.

    I never said that, implied that, nor believe that. Some were to be sure, but not nearly all.
     
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    Cases are surging among the unvaccinated. And Trump sycophants are banning masks.

    Please, continue. Darwin will sort this out. And increase the Democratic voter majority. Win-win.
     
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    Cases are surging in young children. Are they Trump sycophants?
     
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    Just unvaccinated. And, of course, they are catching it from infected, un-masked people.
     
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    There aren't enthralled followers. There are people who like president Trump.
     
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    And all this might just be your dream, Rod, or mine. Or we may just be lab rats, in some alien experiment. But, until the proof comes in, I'm going to proceed according to the truth, as best as I know it to be. That is the choice all of us face. That truth, to be clear, is that Joe Biden was elected by a majority of Americans, fairly, to be our President. In lieu of PROOF that this is not the case, I fail to see the benefit of being wishy-washy on what, to all appearances, that reality is. It only makes you seem a potential ally to those who don't CARE what the truth is, who only want their chosen person to be in power, & who will use any pretext to see that occur.
     
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    Says one of the loyal zombies. I can sum up your argument in this thread, in 7 words: "Trump is the most popular Republican ever."
    These are all different quotes, of yours, here:

    If you have not been mesmerized by Trump, then it sounds like you're in love with him.
     
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    And that's exactly what flat earthers say when you don't believe them.
     
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    Yes it is. But no where near it was last winter.
    And we are for the most part, a wide open economy. Stadiums are full. Schools are open. But cases and deaths are less.
    Has nothing to do with Biden. Just the nature of the virus, IMO. It's no different that the Spanish flu.

    But we had lockdowns and a vaccine. But it still has to run its course.
     
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    Each person has to form their own conclusion, but judicial proof (or any proof, really) and truth are not always -- and often not -- the same thing.
     

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