Hungary will not take part in the Cold War against Russia

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Happened a while back, but shows that there is strong resistance to US/NATO policy in the region. The problem is that this resistance is largely being demonized or ignored by the western corporate media.
     
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    there is no bigger thief on the planet than Putin
     
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    fortunately the US exists to receive all the refugees Putin will make just as we received Stalins refugees and we received Nicky the seconds refugees.
     
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    Ehm ... I'm for sure no friend of the EU as it exists in matter of forced marriage instead a close friendship etc. ...but honestly:

    The corruption accuse was FAR before the Revolution in 2014 in Kiev brought out still a major topic ... so still at a time when Ukraine wasn't any real matter for all to invest only more as 3 brain cells for!

    Finally, does anyone of you know these sharp Media Laws in Hungary about ... so sharp that in the USA will be demonstrations of 15 million people in front of White House if any US President signs them? Even so sharp that the Russian Media is in comparison much more free as those in Hungary?

    Sorry, but this all here is worthless wining and triumph behavior for an issue of junk ... and be aware to take this as any sign for conspiracy of the evil West! THIS happens all still far before Ukraine was any kind of theme!
     
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    Exactly. Also....

    Who cares about Hungary? I find it hard to even care about a nation that 99% of the time is out of any major world discussion.
     
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    You receive Putin's refugees? I don't see any receive from Donbass
     
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    Proof?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh you mean the ones that escaped the Lenin and Trotskyism of the Bolsheviks, and didn't die with the other twenty million Christians? And here I thought they went to China, France and Iran? :confuse:
     
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    By tradition, Hungarians do not like Russians.
    Around 1919 when the West & Japan tried to occupy parts of White Russia, Hungary was there too.
    As a Sovietsky occupied nation it was said when their water polo teams met, the pool water turned red.
    And all the residual from the Sovietsky terminated, Hungarian Revolution.


    Now Boys And Girls -

    What, Oh What could have persuaded the Hungarians to look to Russia?
    BTW compared to Slovakia, or Poland, Hungarians are very industrious similar to the Czechs.

    Go figure.
    And get back to me, please.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g

     
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    Actually you should admire Hungary's Victor Orban for his courage in not bowing to the sociopaths in Washington. I wish him well, and he should take care, after all when a regime change doesn't come about then there's usually an assassination.

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    I don't know the history between Hungary and Russia before the Soviet Union, although they were part of the Austrian/Hungarian Empire, so there had to be some friction with Russia. I think this friendship now between Orban and Putin has to do with the Hungarians in Ukraine.

    Orban is certainly not going to sympathize with the Kiev government and criminals that are persecuting his people. One politician went so far as to say they should intervene, and I know that Pyatt paid the area a visit. There are problems there...maybe with the Right Sector, but to be honest I don't know what is going on. Only that there is friction between Poroshenko and the Right Sector lately and it seems to be in that area. (I might be mistaken here).

    Even though there are not that many Hungarians in Ukraine, the story is the same as with the Russian areas. Transcarpatia was part of Hungary, and was given to Ukraine to be administered around 1945...and I'm sure Hungary wants it back. The language laws affected the people there as much as it did the Russians, and I'm wondering if they're the ones Poroshenko was drafting to be used as cannon fodder. Except for the volunteers, the rest of the army had very little food, were poorly trained and poorly equipped. Many ran into Hungary to escape.
     
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    nope, they came to the US
     
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    I don't know what's going on in Hungary, except it's none of our business. What I have gathered is that Washington wants a regime change, so it's probably accusing the Hungarian government of corruption...It's what they usually do. To protect his country from turning into another Ukraine, Orban probably clamped down on the Soros supported NGO's, as well as the internet, media, etc.

    These countries are getting smart. Washington pushed for a regime change in Macedonia and it didn't work out, and it pushed for one in Krygystan and it didn't work out, and it pushed for one in Armenia and it didn't work out. Seems no one wants to turn into another Ukraine. What a pity?
    :roll:
     
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    "Hungary will not take part in the Cold War against Russia".... well ya.... they're all starving....
     
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    America is not a democracy.
     
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    The blue flag next to the US one you'll see on the right :D

    Minnesota.
     
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    Who is your favorite politician in Washington right now?
     
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    Ron Paul, I'd have to say.
     
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    Well now I have to like you....
     
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    If they are getting smart or not, as well if Washington is pushing for this and that regime change or not, that can be discussed endless and it is at least only a matter of personal opinions.

    About Hungary it is as told otherwise in matter of the corruption accuse, because this is since much longer time a topic as even the Kiev revolution in 2014 started … and so any telling that Washington is behind it (because Orban has no desire to follow the US with Ukraine policy) is total nonsense!

    So again … it is really funny how those conspiracy claims against evil USA turn out so often to be fairy tales only like here in matter of Hungary. On the other hand, countering conspiracy claims from other sides against Russia as for example the plane crash of Polish President Lech Kaczynski on April 10, 2010 was a job Russian FSB are then of course for same people who blame USA always only untrue or suddenly they tell it was a US mission of false flag.
    What about false flag actions of FSB? Impossible? The world of secret services is dirty and not only in the West Jeannette!
    If President X of country Y who is not a friend of USA falls down the stairs and dies in his palace, it was for sure a matter of CIA behind who changed the stairs there. Ridiculous example? No, because many conspiracy claims are same way ridiculous if someone takes only a closer eye on issue …
     
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    Once again, who cares about Hungary? They are one of the most least important countries in the world. lol
     
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    Sorry ... but really? Well ... will be than very interesting why the US bases in Hungary are for the US so important then. Form this point of view I understand Jeannette, as far as I disagree with her about the rest and conclusions she made.
    The point is at least another one ... if the NATO community fails in handle acting like 1 person, then we have a real problem. Hungary / Orban is not alone with this thoughts about Ukraine issue inside the NATO as well there are extreme other sides like Poland existing too. Under the covers and behind the closed doors, it simmers but more than one thinks inside NATO ... because the American-European connection took several injuries due to impudent actions and behavior of for example US services like NSA against their own allies! The time where the USA could dictate things to her smaller partners and allies is over ... as well that everyone accepts such things under the cover story of "war against terror".

    As told, it is more and more boiling, but yet far from being really serious in moment. But this can change if the "bull in a China shop" behavior of the USA doesn't stop slowly.
     

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