And so what?.... You walk away from the idea? And settle for staying ignorant or just taking your chances?
I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster because I can't disprove his holy sauciness. I eat spaghetti once a week to honor his holy sauciness. Heaven is an all you can eat spaghetti buffet. Hell is just kale salad.
In other words, you are wasting some precious moments one has left on earth with a religion board. Got it. Makes as little sense as I initially suspected.
Life is absurd. "God" is an equally absurd explanation for life. I remain skeptical until there is proof of God. I like to tease people that talk about God like it absolutely exists.
Would you prefer that God force you to go to heaven? Maybe even force you to believe in Him and force you to 'be good'?
We all know many people don't believe. Theres no obligation to cater to every conceivable beleif or lack-thereof when posing a question on the issue. Just because the OP didnt preface with 'If theres a God' doesnt mean its assuming that everyone believes in God.
The picture was satire of an "All Loving" God. Hell is one of the many reasons I don't believe in God. My point is there is probably not a God. It's absurd to discuss how God works or created the universe. Maybe we are just God's cute little pets but I don't have any evidence of it.
Can we ever share a perspective with an immortal being? Can an immortal being ever share a perspective with us? Does 'omniscient' and 'omnipotent' necessarily mean 'omniperspective'? An idea Ive been toying with on the issue is whether or not its possible for God to totally grasp the perspective of His relatively impotent creations, so limited in their individual power as we are. Basically- is it possible for an allknowing allpowerful being to create a perspective with which it is unfamiliar with, and must learn (like mortality and impotence)? I know that 'opposing absolutes' arent necessarily the most philosophically genuine questions in the God discussion, but surely God wondered the same thing at some point in infinite existance- 'do I have a limit? can I escape that limit?' And possibly, in becoming Jesus to gain our perspective, he did that. Can an omniscient being teach itself something?
Its also absurd to discuss whether Captain Kirk or Captain Picard was better. Do you go onto Star Trek forums to call them out on it? If so, how is that a better way of spending your time than what they (and we) are doing?
Captain Kirk and Picard 100% are real. Fictional but real. God is maybe .0001% chance of being real. So we're going to discuss what an imaginary magic man's rationale was for creating the universe? I find it absurd and it deserves funny memes.
The answer to 'can god X?' has to always be yes. If the answer is no, then the question is why not? Who put that limitation on it? If that limitation is just a part of nature, then we don't need a god at all since it is much simpler just to say that nature has a certain set of properties fundamental to it. If that's the case, then everything else falls in to place from the science we already have figured out.
If someone asked me who was better I would offer my opinion (Picard), the VAST majority of posts that dispute God are replies to assertions it is real or Christians debasing Atheists.
I think not needing God may be the whole point. If I were to define 'the ultimate creation' it would be one that serves its own purpose independent of the creator.
I don't see that that follows as the definition of 'the ultimate creation.' However, if we are to say that we are meant to exist independent of a creator, then there also is no reason to think there is a creator. We can also say that we are the inadvertent excrement of a cosmic chicken. Can't say we aren't, but there is no reason to think so.
When "God" or a creator is added to the equation it immediately places limits and unneeded parameters on the Universe, rendering it imperfect which is not ultimate. There is also no reason to think a God exists.
“Until there is proof….” Yes, we will all get right on that and try to find you some ---- because hitherto all our “proof” has been so sketchy. In all honesty, it is you that is hard for me to believe exists, not God. What in the world do you think about each day, and what is important to you? Maybe God will forgive you because there may be some kind of blindness present that makes no sense to the rest of us.
Yes, you are an impressive one as well. Spaghetti monster devotee... so funny. You would rather we all smile and hug and everyone just celebrate everyone doing their own thing, until it’s too late. That sounds like the message coming from some entity that should be avoided at all costs.
Couldn't agree more, teco We're in the 21st century now, and still not even a crumb of credible or compelling evidence supporting this FANTASTICAL hypothesis that some creator god is out there ... somewhere. Meanwhile, science continues its relentless, fact-based march forward in explaining the origins of life and the universe. Time for people to give up on this superstitious, childish BS called religion ... and their DESPERATE hope that some god will take care of them in some happy place in the sky after they croak. Cuz, frankly, they sound like a bunch of rambling mental patients...
Interesting....so it seems you have a problem with people being happy and free. Apparently people who do not think as you do get angry lashings as well. It would seem my observation was inaccurate, not so pleasant after all.
And it seems to me that you are on some mission you would never admit to. And that is to seek out any Christian who would dare say they know something for sure. And once you have found your prey, attack. And demand proof for their "god." And point out how mean and heartless we are by daring to say that someone else may not be living their lives properly. Show the world how cruel and phony we are. In other word tecoyah, you are such a pitiful case. Clever? No. You just think you are.
