Iran appears to be on the verge of nuclear capability

Because Iran is committed to wiping Israel off the map, not the other way around, because Iran supports, finances and trains dozens of murderous terror gangs, because Iran threatens gulf states, not Israel, because Mullahs are certifiably crazy religious nutcases, Israeli leaders are pragmatic.

 

Iran poses zero threat to Europe and the United States. All they want to do is to be independent and control their own country and resources. That's all. Borat is hilarious. I have to quote Lt Gen Beny Gantz.

“ I don't think [Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei] will want to go the extra mile. I think the Iranian leadership is composed of very rational people.”

- Lt Gen Benny Gantz, IDF chief

 

"Israeli leaders are pragmatic"!

The last pragmatic leader Israel had was murdered by a psychopathic Zionist. As far as the "wiping" crap is concerned, that gloriously inept mistranslation by MEMRI was exposed years ago for the rubbish it is. But you just keep repeating it if it makes you feel good.

 

MEMRI, what MEMRI? How about Iranian presidential web site?

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Monday that the Zionist Regime of Israel faces a deadend and will under God's grace be wiped off the map.


"O dear Imam (Khomeini)! You said the Zionist Regime that is a usurper and illegitimate regime and a cancerous tumor should be wiped off the map. I should say that your illuminating remark and cause is going to come true today. The Zionist Regime has lost its existence philosophy... the Zionist regime faces a complete deadend and under God's grace your wish will soon be materialized and the corrupt element will be wiped off the map," said President Ahmadinejad.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110716100837/http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=10114

PS Please don't even try splitting hairs between Israel and "zionist regime". I don't have time for such nonsense and you are not fooling anyone either.


PS2 Do you want me to link to the identical translation on Al-Jazeera website? MEMRI my a$s. LOL

 

There is no such idiom in Farsi as 'wiping off the map'. You know it, I know it. And frankly anyone trusting MEMRI as an impartial source when it was founded by, and is run by, former Israeli intelligence operatives, is a gullible fool.
Here's more on MEMRI-and from a Jew: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...ouse-hamas-story-and-how-it-suckered-the-msm/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/12/worlddispatch.brianwhitaker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute#Alleged_translation_inaccuracy

MEMRI is no less than an anti-Muslim propaganda organisation.

 

Right....why don't you explain it to the official Iranian presidential website which translated it as "wiping Israel off the map". Send them an email, perhaps if you hear from them that idioms are not translated literally but with the closest available idiom and the closest English idiom to the one Ahmadi used was "wiping Israel off the map", perhaps then you will understand.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110716100837/http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=10114

 

This anomaly has been explained on numerous occasions on this board previously.

 

The exact statement that he made on the website, and I copied this from wikipedia,....

The Iranian presidential website stated: "the Zionist Regime of Israel faces a deadend and will under God's grace be wiped off the map," and "the Zionist Regime that is a usurper and illegitimate regime and a cancerous tumor should be wiped off the map."


He didn't say to wipe Israel of the map.
He said to wipe that zionist regime of the map.

 

Iran doesnt have to keep nukes inside their borders any longer.
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/01/20/russia-and-iran-sign-military-cooperation-deal

 

That must be a relief to Israel who can now dismantle their estimated 400 nuclear weapons forthwith.

 

oh look, the Neo-Zionist Palestine Post is trying to scare the USA.

 

What. You mean Israel has nukes. Noooooo they cant since they arent a member of the IAEA. Gee wonder how that happened.
Maybe we can pay Iran to sign a deal with China also.
"The Obama administration on Wednesday paid $490 million in cash assets to Iran and will have released a total of $11.9 billion to the Islamic Republic by the time nuclear talks are scheduled to end in June, according to figures provided by the State Department.

Today’s $490 million release, the third such payment of this amount since Dec. 10, was agreed to by the Obama administration under the parameters of another extension in negotiations over Tehran’s contested nuclear program that was inked in November."

 

And I specifically asked in my previous post to avoid splitting hairs between "Zionist Regime" and Israel. "The zionist regime" is how countries rejecting Israel's right to exist routinely refer to her, there is no "zionist regime", there is Israel's declaration of independence, the democratically elected government of Israel, the IDF, civilian, political, judicial and military institutions, and there is the people of Israel who will defend this "regime" till the last Jew or the last Arab, whichever comes first which makes your hair splitting patently lame and absurd.

 

So are you claiming that no distinction can be made between Germany and the Nazi regime?

 

I don't see this as splitting hairs at all. I see this as extremistic Jews and their supporters pulling out the race card to silence criticism on their warcriminal government that goes forth with ethnic cleansing Arabs bit by bit.

It's simply factually incorrect to claim he said to wipe Israel of the map. He doesn't even speak English! You're actually parroting a wild interpretation of a translation. He got something against that regime and gave his opinion about those war criminals.

It works the other way around actually. When people say, we need to beet Germany, back in 1945... it didn't mean to get every single last German. Just it's regime.

 

Certainly no substantial difference during WWII, you had to wage an all out war against the entire country. And that's what Iranian president was talking about, a direct threat of all out war against Israel. And wiping out Israel as a jewish state which is absolutely unacceptable to the people of Israel even if they don't intend to murder every jew right away.... Sorry to break your bubble but Israel is no Nazi Germany and iran with Syria are no liberators and you are splitting hairs just like I said you would.

 

I don't like gefilte fish or Mogen-David wine. Am I anti-semitic?

 

Exactly, which shows that these terms are routinely used interchangeably and when Iran wants to wipe out "zionist regime/entity/enemy" - he has getting rid of the Jewish state in the Middle East in mind and neither he nor you guys are fooling anyone.

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Most certainly are but because of your antisemitic posts, not food preferences.

 

So, using your logic, the Iranian's were justified in their support of wiping the regime in Israel from the map in the same way that those who wanted to rid the Nazi's in Germany were. Thanks for the clarification.

 

So you agree that Iran's objective is wiping Israel off the map, the Middle East with no Israel. I think we are finally in agreement, now that you have stopped splitting hairs. Thanks

Iran is Nazi Germany, Ahmadinejad's Hitler in this conflict, just to clarify for you.

 

Nope, they were justified in wiping the regime from the map, in the same way that all those who were rightly critical of Nazi Germany were justified in wiping the Nazi regime from the map also.

 

This is pathetic analysis.

Having Pakistan and India get "the bomb" actually stabilized the relationship, causing greater circumspection when border issues arise. Before "the bomb" there was actual war going on.

In general, all this "wipe out <whomever>" type logic is clearly nonsense. Governments are almost always more conservative than that. They are led by individuals who care about at least some portion of their citizenry and who are invested in the futures of themselves and their nation. They are not suicidal.

I'm not at all in favor of anyone having the bomb. Crazy stuff can happen. We dropped an atomic bomb on the USA and most of its security mechanisms failed - so it just about went off. We've opened our silo doors and prepared for launch over stuff as stupid as inadvertently playing training tapes into our defense system. And, that is the USA - other nations aren't as capable as we are. We have seen Russian weapons inadequately protected against theft. And, of course, some conflict could grow out of control.

We have reason to oppose nuclear proliferation. But, lets be rational about it.

 

In my opinion....anyone who seriously believes Iran would be stupid enough to use nukes on anyone else is either ignorant of reality or fear mongering. Think about the result of them doing so as it would mean the absolute destruction of the entire country and the elimination of the regime....and they at least know it.

Should Iran attack Israel both Israel and the United States would turn the nation into stained glass.

 

Indeed. But fear sells.

 

irrational fear of evil Muslims looking to nuke you, sells even better.