Islam has no case

Do you find that funnier than ascending to heaven in a cloud, parting seas or turning sticks into snakes?

 

pssst... Muslims believe in that too.

 

Here you go: Christians and Muslims have quite a lot in common. No surprise there, seeing that they basically believe in the same Abrahamic God.

 

You have just denigrated the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran is the literal word of God Himself. Bare your neck for the stroke you infidel.

 

What part of "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"...don't you understand?

The TRINITY.

 

Yeah, I do.

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What part of "Abrahamic God" didn't you understand? Jews, Christians and Muslims all pray to the God Abraham prayed to and all of them claim to be monotheistic.
While our ideas about Him might differ, there is but this one God in these religious traditions. It might come as a shock to you, but if you're a Christian or a Jew you've got no choice but to pray to the same God Mahmoud Ahmadinejad prays to.

 

Born and raised Roman Catholic. Converted to atheism long ago pal. The Muslims aren't going to chop off my head, but you're another matter.

 

They actually hate pagans more than Jews and Christians. Jews and Christians are given the option to live as 2nd class slaves, whereas pagans are just killed outright. Lucky them!

 

'converted' to atheism? aha.

When it comes to the safety of my head I'm more worried about the Anders-Breivik-types these days.

 

Fairy tale? What?

Maybe, just maybe, the Quran has parts from the Bible and Torah in because - wait for it, this might blow your minds - they are all, as in all 3 Holy books, are from the same God. Woah!

Guys, we need to learn to share God okay. I know, some of use want him all to ourselves, but sharing is important. Okay?

Actually, there is verse in the Quran explaining how the Bible and Torah are both books from God, and both changed by man. While neither the Bible nor Torah claims the Quran is corrupt (I realize the obvious reason is because it was after the books). Uthman didn't change the Quran, he copied the last original and spread it throughout the Middle East to preserve it. There is written proof of this.

I have a question. Why when I have written proof of what I say, it's wrong, but when you claim Islam and the Quran are fake with no evidence, I'm suppose to believe you? I'd love an answer to this.

I'm not trying to force Islam on anybody. A handeful of Christians on this forum are the ones claiming my religion is false. I haven't once insulted Christianity even in response to your blind harred. I don't need to make up things about Christianity to make my point. My point being Islam is not a false religion.

I don't care what your perspective on the Middle East if you are a Christian. Go there. Don't use FOX News as your view of the Middle East as a Christian. You can go as a Christian ans see first hand how Christians are treated. Don't go to a Taliban or Al Qaida town, obviously these two fundementalist groups won't treat you right. Go to.... Beruit, Cairo, Ankara. Damascus.

It is very much broken.

Do you know what PBUH means? I use when talking about any Prophet, not just Mohammed PBUH. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, Mary, the list goes on and on.

It has nothing to do with Sharia and to do with respect.

Woah, we believe in the same thing. Shocker.

I realize I'm talking to a wall right now....

Salam

 

Where did you get this from? Wow.... Lol

 

Anders was sort of like Major Nidal Malik Hasan, MD. Except, Anders wasn't on a mission from GAAAAAAWD.

 

I think he was told by the Hindus of India, the Animists of South Sudan, and the Buddhists of Thailand.

 

Haha wow you are clueless.

Anders was trying to start another Crusade against Islam. That is in the name of God.

Salam

 

Of course you are. Scary white men are the ultimate villain to you libs. Minorities can do no wrong.

I guess you weren't that tired, eh?

 

Haha no, no. It's the other way around, you're right.

The minority is the real danger to everybody, because...... What, Geert Wilders says so? Say hi to Glenn Beck for me.

 

Historically, Muslim nations have been far and away more tolerant, free etc than Christian kingdoms. Within the modern era, Christian societies only adopted such political tendencies as a way of securing political stability - not because they thought it was a Christian duty. Today, Islamic societies have made the slow transition, which is actually more interesting because a lot of the reform has been sought through Islam rather than above it, as with what happened in Europe and then in the US. In places like Turkey and Indonesia, which are secular (that latter having the biggest Muslim populace) the change was brought about around Islamic doctrine, although domestic religious authorities changed their tunes to get over the reform. Within places like Egypt and Jordan however we can see Islamist groups attempting to push, however sporadically, for secular change through Islamic doctrine, which is quite unusual. I think however reform will most likely take the same path as Europe and those other secular, Muslim populated societies that avoided religion within government to create a tolerant and peaceful environment.

My point here is Islam certainly does have a case as a productive creed - and as a practical religion it is simply because all any religion needs to be believed is faith. No religion 'has a case' if we think rationally.

 

Nothing is complicated or impossible with the true God.

 

I can understand why you are confuse because just like many Muslims they can not accept Jesus Christ is God it is very simple, unfortunately Islam teaches that Allah is almighty so mighty that being human is unworthy of his Godliness.

Indeed Islam is wrong because it does not accept or recognize Jesus Christ is God and worse is that Islam deception by changing God's entire Bible to decieved the entire human race by pretending that Islam respect Jesus with this words PBUH! instead of of PRAISE THE LORD GOD JESUS! that is proper and right praise to use.

That is the problem you are just a Muslim that have refused to educate yourself the true nature of Islam. And that is how Islam expect from Muslims total blind loyalty and never never to question the koran only question the BIbl;e but never the Koran.

Amazing how the Muslim site removed the name of Isaac another clear sign of deception here is the full text of that gospel:

Genesis 22:8-18
8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram[a] caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide. And to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided.”

15 The angel of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time 16 and said, “I swear by myself, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed,[c] because you have obeyed me.”

You are not wasting your time just like I am not wasting my time because the public needs to be educated to the truth.

Islam argues that there is no difference between Ishmael and Isaac if there is no difference then why are they so against the Isaac Bible story? Because it does make a difference Islam claim of Ishmael has no story, no history and no lineage to Islam that is why they switch to Isaac only to use the Isaac lineage but not Isaac's heritage from God.

Yes they are different religion thank you for admitting that hopefully you will be able to convince the Islamic heihrachy to change the entire Koran characters and use their own characters.

Mohammed was well known to be a great orator he is a travelling merchant we can look at this at two angles:
1. Religion angle; the Gabriel that appeared to MOhammed was actually Satan that is why Gabriel-Muslim was so upset when he learn that Mohammed can not read and write that he threaten and force him to memorize what he is dictating. Plus Gabriel-Muslim could not even perform one miracle by at least making Mohammed able to read and write and Mohammed never in his adult life until he died took the time out to learn to read and write.
2. None religious point: it is written that Mohammed was good in memorising words that was his special talent he would be telling great stories to caravans while in camp. He also had interaction with Christians and Jews during his travel that is where he learn about the One God concept and started compare it with the desert tribes in Arabia. His Christian exposure was probably not Catholicism but Coptics, Arianism and other Christian sects Catholicism was a minority in Egypt. That is where he deicded to start preaching the one God under their influence and would later change the entire Bible story especially after the Arians were destroyed by the Byzantine Eastern Othrodox after it was declare a heresy.

It was not change it was continously written pass down from one generation to the other without breaking the entire chronological story line and the message of God.


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They believe in the same God, he is just given a different name due to different language.

 

Dont pronounce victory where you have none. You have yet to reply to my refutation of your OP points.

 

I beg to differ. The Islamic Doctrine of Tawhid precludes Christians and Muslims from worshiping the same conception of God.

All mainstream Christians believe in the Holy Trinity. God the Father begets and Christ the Son is begotten. The Holy Spirit proceeds from God the Father.

All faithful Muslims believe that God neither begets nor is begotten. God needs no partners. This is fundamental.

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