Israel in violation of 4th Geneva Conventions

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  1. stuntman

    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Israel doesnt chooses what law to enforce and which not. Israel is repsecting the laws there without "choosing".

    You are saying they enforced Ottoman law, but if they did enforce, so Israel just obied the law in the West Bank and didnt steal.
    When you are obeying laws it isnt stealing!

    There are in the West Bank 1.9 million state lands and not only 527,000.

    Alon Morah today exists legaly after they've been evecuated.

    Moreover, Betselem says about the Ottoman law that:
    So bassically say, say they obey that law, therefore they didnt steal land but obey law.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ottoman, Jordanian, and British law is no longer valid in the West Bank.

    Only Israeli law and international law.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    You are inccorect there! Jordanian, Ottoman and British law are still valid there. Like when Jordan used Ottoman and British laws between 1948-1967.

    The Israeli law respects these laws and the International ones.
     
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    Daniel Mandel, director of the Zionist Organization of America’s Center for Middle East Policy, wrote in the Canberra Times this month that because Jewish settlers have not been transferred forcibly to communities in the West Bank, but rather wanted to move there, Article 49 of Geneva does not apply.

    “Palestinians are not being deported from the West Bank to another territory. Nor are Jews being deported from Israel to the West Bank; they are moving of their own free will,” Mandel wrote.

    Mandel supported the Australian foreign minister’s skepticism regarding the “flat-earth assertion” that settlements are illegal, writing:

     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet when Israel took over, they immediately CANCELLED the Jordanian process of registering land to Arab farmers, which had been going on for years.

    why? cause they want to take the land for the Jews.
     
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    No, you need to read more on the subject, having Israeli law in the WB is what Bennet asks.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if Israel respects Jordanian law in the West Bank, why did they STOP registering land to local farmers as soon as they took over?

    hypocrisy.
     
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    You mean Jordinian land to Israeli land, like I said you got only Oslo to rely on.

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    We dont as far as I know...., we only have Oslo as an agreement with the Palestinians, Jordan left them and broke all ties.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel doesn't respect Jordanian law in the West Bank.

    if they did, they would continue registering land to the farmers who use it.

    just as Jordan did. just as the British did.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Jordan when she illegaly ruled in the West Bank, she tried to keep the Jewish lands as they were (= a lands that belong to Jews), but there were from time to time that Jordan sold Jewish lands to a third side. Which the legitimacy of those actions were questionable.
    So Israel, after 1967, stopped these questionable dealings.

    If we look on what the Hague Convention says, we'll see that these dealings that Jordan made with third sides were a violation of this convention! why? because in the Hague Convention says that Jordan must maintain the status of the Jewish lands (= lands that belong to Jews), but with those questionable dealing they changed the status of the Jewish lands, which were a violationg of this convention. So bassically these dealings must've been stopped!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    only maybe 5% of the West Bank was Jewish land.

    and yet today, 55% of the West Bank is controlled by Israelis.
     
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    Once again:
    Please read what I'm writting to you. Stop ignoring it!!
     
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    However, the amount of land recorded in the land registry as government property prior to Israel’s occupation of the West Bank in 1967 was limited (527,000 dunams, 9 percent of the West Bank, excluding East Jerusalem), and was concentrated in the Jordan Valley. The Central Mountain Ridge region contained almost no state land.

    Following the court’s ruling in the Elon Moreh case, and in line with policies of building settlements throughout the West Bank, including on the Central Mountain Ridge, the State of Israel declared more than 900,000 dunams as state land


    stop stealing land!!!!!!

    http://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/201203_under_the_guise_of_legality
     
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    As I wrote:
    Alon Morah today exists legaly after they've been evecuated.

    Moreover, Betselem says about the Ottoman law that:
    So basically say, say they obey that law, therefore they didnt steal land but obey law.

    Please stop ignoring what I'm writting to you!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel has stolen hundreds of thousands of dumans of land in the West Bank, immediately stopped following Jordanian law to register lands to Arab farmers, and continues to STEAL private land to help settlements.

    Israel=thieves
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    And in the second time:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    stop making excuses for Israel's thievery.
     
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    These are not excuses, but laws.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet Israel ignores Jordanian law, which was to register land with the local farmers who were using it.
     
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    I already explained to you what were those lands:
    But you prefer to ignore it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the 900,000 dunams of land that Israel STOLE since 1979 were Jewish lands???

    prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I said that every peice of land that Israel have today are according to the laws in the West Bank (Ottoman, British, Jordanian), like the Jewish lands are existing today because of those laws.
    I'm urging you to read more carefully what I write you.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing evidence that the 900,000 dumans of land that Israel stole and turned into State Land after 1979, was actually Jewish owned land.

    no evidence at all. Just propaganda, sophistry, and dishonesty.

    your values and ideas is why the world HATES Israel.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Once again:
    Please stop distorting what I'm writting!!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you have no evidence, just vague proclamations.
     

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