Jewish Chronicle forced to apologise for Gaza appeal advert...

I didn't politicise it - Snake did in the OP. And most definitely congratulations are not in order.

 

CNN reporters' reporting simultaneously from Gaza and Jerusalem have just within the last few minutes conceded that - with or without the Iron Dome - the rockettes are largely ineffectual. This was officially reiterated by an Israeli spokesman So, first, it's a misconception that the rockettes are a threat to Israeli citizens. It follows that the almost constant Israeli pounding of civilian infrastructure is disproportionate. Second, it's untrue that it is Israel that is retaliating since the latest phase of the ongoing conflict has its roots in illegal Israeli expansionism, ethnic cleansing and occupation. No occupation=No resistance to occupation.

 

Nope, Snake pointed out the politicisation of the issue as a result of the editorial decision to pander to Jewish extremist pressure by banning an ad calling for support of the suffering Palestinian people on humanitarian grounds.

 

Not what I'm talking about at all, and you know it. Hamas fires rockets and runs for their bomb-shelters, leaving women and children to an Israeli retaliation. So, if "freedom fighters" know for sure their women and children will die because they just launched rocket toward Israel, they are not really "freedom fighters" but monsters. Would not you agree to that?

 

What you describe is indicative of how desperate the people in Gaza are following decades of Israeli State duplicity and dishonesty. I've repeatedly stated my position of Hamas on here. They are anti-Semitic and repugnant and firing rockets into Israel amount to illegal war crimes. However, their actions have to be seen within a specific context that you willingly fail to acknowledge because your position is an ideologically driven, as opposed to a rational and objective, one.

 

*shrug Be it as it may, Hamas (and other Islamic terrorists) definitely have a very specific mindset. I mean, to knowingly send women and children to a certain death while protecting yourself in a bomb-shelter is something no man can, or should do. There can be no excuse to use children and women as a human shield.

 

No what he described was Hamas deliberately placing its people in harm's way to die.

You now have tried to restate that above as Palestinian civilians being desperate.


It's interesting you take the actions of Hamas and in particular their decision to get Palestinians killed, and blame it on Palestinians as being desperate.

No the actions reflect as to the intentions of Hamas. The act of placing Palestinians in harm's way to die as a political weapon, is a manifested intent of Hamas; charter and beliefs.

Your comment above again shows how you try misquote what is actually stated to you and try twist it to justify the actions of Hamas.

Hamas does what it does for Hamas not Palestinian civilians.

Hamas is no victim. It is an organization dedicated to the slow and deliberate collective killings of the people it claims to represent claiming this is a legitimate act of political expression.

 

Yawn. I've repeatedly highlighted how those who argue against Palestinian freedom from Israeli oppression - including collective punishment, ethnic cleansing, ilegal expansionism and occupation - premised on the basis of the contents of the Charter's outdated, outmoded and irrelevant contents, do so on an ideological basis. So you are just regurgitating already debunked propaganda.

Of course, you also sidestepped the historical political context which gives rise to Palestinian desperation that has resulted in Hamas firing largely ineffectual rockettes in the general direction of Israel.

But then again, I have come to expect total cluelessness from you.

 

Again, there is no evidence in this latest phase of Israeli brutality of them using Palestinians as human shields. I know pro-Israeli propagandists would prefer a simplistic conceptualization as to what constitutes the use of human shields within the context of Gaza, but the reality is the issue is a complex and multifaceted one.

 

Yep, neglecting to mention that the charity in question was closely linked to Hamas and editorializing regarding the nature of the JC reaction is most definitely politicization.

 

Not saying it's easy or even possible. Just saying unless you distinguish yourself from the guy standing next to you, claiming he's your partner, you can't expect anyone else to.





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Humanitarian charity giving overrides political considerations. So why would he feel the need to mention it's alleged links? You are the one here politicising this issue, not him.

 

The principles of humanitarian have been well established since the founding of Oxfam in 1942, its sad that some are revisiting for the Palestinians what I thought had been an established norm.

http://newint.org/features/1992/02/05/end/

 

..and I have come to expect absolute false statements from you as to what Hamas' position is.

You are well aware Hamas has never changed its Charter. Ever.

In fact it has continually called out for the destruction of Israel.

For example on Al-Aqsa TV (Dec. 14, 2011 in a speech by Ismail Haniyeh, head of Hamas at ceremony marking 24th anniversary of the founding of Hamas he stated:

"We welcome you today, on this anniversary of the founding of the Islamic Resistance Movement - Hamas, as you renew the promise and oath of loyalty with Allah, with His Messenger and with His believers; you are renewing the loyalty to the blood of the Martyrs and the path of resistance and Jihad upon the blessed land of Palestine...
We say today, explicitly, so it cannot be explained otherwise, that the armed resistance and the armed struggle are the path and the strategic choice for liberating the Palestinian land, from the [Mediterranean] sea to the [Jordan] river, and for the expulsion of the invaders and usurpers [Israel] from the blessed land of Palestine. The Hamas movement will lead Intifada after Intifada until we liberate Palestine - all of Palestine, Allah willing. Allah Akbar and praise Allah. We say with transparency and in a clear manner, that Palestinian reconciliation - and all sides must know this - cannot come at the expense of [our] principles, at the expense of the resistance. These principles are absolute and cannot be disputed: Palestine - all of Palestine - is from the sea to the river. We won't relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine. The involvement of Hamas at any stage with the interim objective of liberation of [only] Gaza, the West Bank, or Jerusalem, does not replace its strategic view concerning Palestine and the land of Palestine."

On Dec.8, 2012 Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, stated he would never recognize Israel and said his Islamist group would never abandon its claim to all Israeli territory.

"Palestine is ours from the river to the sea and from the south to the north. There will be no concession on an inch of the land," he told a sea of supporters at an open-air rally, the highlight of his three-day stay in Gaza. "We will never recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation and therefore there is no legitimacy for Israel, no matter how long it will take." In an uncompromising speech, Meshaal also vowed to free Palestinian prisoners held in Israel, indicating Islamist militants would try to kidnap Israeli soldiers to use as a bargaining chip. Israel last year released 1,027 Palestinians from its jails in return for the liberation of Gilad Shalit, a conscript soldier who was seized by Palestinian guerrillas in 2006 and hidden for more than five years in Gaza. Thousands of Palestinian detainees remain in Israel. The Jewish state says many of them are terrorists. Hamas calls them freedom fighters. "We will not rest until we liberate the prisoners. The way we freed some of the prisoners in the past is the way we will use to free the remaining prisoners,"

source: http://pamelageller.com/2012/12/sav...-sea-and-from-the-.html/#sthash.WJ0HGABM.dpuf

In fact there is a long ane never ending litany of Hamas vows to wipe out Israel since it wrote its charter in 1988:

Ismail Haniyeh, head of the Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip commenting on the killing of Osama Bin Laden, May 2, 2011

"We regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood…We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior. We ask God to offer him mercy with the true believers and the martyrs."

Sermon delivered by 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh, former Hamas minister of culture, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV, April 8, 2011, translation by MEMRI

"Whoever is killed by a Jew receives the reward of two martyrs, because the very thing that the Jews did to the prophets was done to him.

"The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah.

"Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world.

"The Jews kill anyone who believes in Allah. They do not want to see any peace whatsoever on Earth."

Statement from Hamas Ministry of Refugee Affairs on U.N. Relief and Works Agency plan to include Holocaust education in the curriculum taught Palestinian refugees, February 28, 2011

“We cannot agree to a programme that is intended to poison the minds of our children…Holocaust studies in refugee camps is a contemptible plot and serves the Zionist entity with a goal of creating a reality and telling stories in order to justify acts of slaughter against the Palestinian people."

Hamas official Halil Al-Hayya, Al-Hayat newspaper, November 11, 2010

"The lie of the Zionist Holocaust crumbles with countless holocausts committed by the Zionists in Beit Hanoun, al-Fakhoura school and other places in Palestine."

"Palestine is Islamic, and not an Islamic emirate, from the river to the sea, that unites the Palestinians. Jews have no right in it, with the exception of those who lived on the land of Palestine before World War I."

Hamas leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, Future News TV, June 15, 2010, Source: MEMRI.org

"We have liberated Gaza, but have we recognized Israel? Have we given up our lands occupied in 1948? We demand the liberation of the West Bank, and the establishment of a state in the West Bank and Gaza, with Jerusalem as its capital – but without recognizing [Israel]. This is the key – without recognizing the Israeli enemy on a single inch of land...

"Our plan for this stage is to liberate any inch of Palestinian land, and to establish a state on it. Our ultimate plan is [to have] Palestine in its entirety. I say this loud and clear so that nobody will accuse me of employing political tactics. We will not recognize the Israeli enemy. "

Hamas leader Mahmoud a-Zahar, Al-Aqsa TV, January 4, 2009

Hamas "must lay the foundation for a tomorrow without Zionists."

Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, December 28, 2008

"We are stronger, and more determined, and have more will, and we will hold onto our rights even more than before."

Hamas leader-in-exile Khaled Mashaal, Damascus, Syria, December 27, 2008

"This is the time for the third uprising... Resistance will continue through suicide missions."

Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, calling for a resumption of suicide attacks on Gaza radio, December 27, 2008

"Hamas will continue the resistance until the last drop of blood."

Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, December 25, 2008

"Israel will pay a heavy price for its crimes against the Palestinians. Israel's actions enhance our determination to pursue the path of resistance through all means available. … [Israel is] committing a holocaust as the whole world watches and doesn't lift a finger to stop it."

Leaflet issued by Izzadin Kassam, the armed wing of Hamas, December 25, 2008

"We won't succumb to the logic of threats made by the Zionist war criminals. Today we are prepared more than ever to foil any aggression against our people."

Hamas leader Ayman Taha, December 22, 2008

"It is our right as an occupied people to defend ourselves from the occupation by all means possible including suicide attacks."

Hamas Spokesman Fawzi Barhum, October 7, 2008; as reported by AFP and other news agencies

[The economic crisis is the result of] "bad administrative and financial management and a bad banking system put into place and controlled by the Jewish lobby."

[The Jewish lobby] "controls the U.S. elections and defines the foreign policy of any new administration in a manner that allows it to retain control of the American government and economy."

Dr. Yussuf Al-Sharafi, Hamas representative, April 12, 2007; as reported by Palestinian Media Watch, April 23, 2007

"...the Jewish faith does not wish for peace nor stability, since it is a faith that is based on murder: 'I kill, therefore I am'... Israel is based only on blood and murder in order to exist, and it will disappear, with Allah's will, through blood and Shahids [martyrs]."

Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Bahar, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, April 20, 2007; as reported by Palestinian Media Watch, April 23, 2007

"This is Islam, that was ahead of its time with regards to human rights in the treatment of prisoners, but our nation was tested by the cancerous lump, that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation... Be certain that America is on its way to utter destruction, America is wallowing [in blood] today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated and Israel is defeated, and was defeated in Lebanon and Palestine... Make us victorious over the community of infidels... Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies... Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them."

Hamas statement in response to criticism by Al-Qaeda's Ayman al-Zawahri, March 12, 2007

"We will not betray promises we made to God to continue the path of Jihad and resistance until the liberation of Palestine, all of Palestine. . . So be assured doctor Ayman, and all those who love Palestine like yourself, that Hamas is still the group you knew when it was founded and it will never abandon its path."

Sami Abu Zuhri, Hamas spokesman, April 17, 2006

"[The Tel Aviv suicide bombing] is an an act of self defense... [it is] a natural result of the continued Israeli crimes against our people."

Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader, February 3, 2006, Al-Hayyat al-Jedida

"[Hamas will] never recognize the legitimacy of the Zionist state that was founded on our land."

Mahmoud Zahar, Hamas leader, after casting his vote in the Gaza Strip, January 25, 2006, Ha'aretz

"[Hamas] will not change a single word in its covenant [which is calling for the destruction of Israel]."

Ismail Haniyah, Hamas leader, at an election rally in Gaza, January 20, 2006, Reuters

"They have tried to pressure Hamas to abandon resistance and to abandon arms. They tried to pressure Hamas to abandon its strategic choice in Palestine, all of Palestine. They tried to pressure Hamas to recognize the legitimacy of the occupation. But they failed... We say Hamas will not change its constant principles."

Ismail Haniyah, Hamas leader, at an election rally in Gaza, January 20, 2006, Gulf Daily News, Bahrain

"The constants and the strategy of Hamas do not change according to circumstances. Hamas will stay faithful to jihad, to resistance, to guns, to Palestine and to Jerusalem."

Ismail Hanieh, Hamas leader, January 18, 2006, AP

"Hamas is not hostile to Jews because they are Jews. We are hostile to them because they occupied our land and expelled our people.... We did not say we want to throw the Jews in the sea or feed them to sharks. We just said that there is a land called occupied Palestine. It was burglarized and it needs to be returned to the Palestinian people."

Mahmoud Zahar, Hamas leader and candidate to the Palestinian legislative council, Palestinian TV, January 17, 2006, Newsday

"We do not recognize the Israeli enemy, nor his right to be our neighbor, nor to stay (on the land), nor his ownership of any inch of land.... We are interested in restoring our full rights to return all the people of Palestine to the land of Palestine. Our principles are clear: Palestine is a land of Waqf (Islamic trust), which can not be given up."

Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu-Zuhri, explains to Al-Sharq al-Awsat that there is no contradiction between Hamas' platform for the election and its charter, which calls for the destruction of Israel, January 13, 2006, BBC Monitoring

"The program [of Hamas-backed list to legislative council] sets out the details and means for its implementation over the next four years, while the [Hamas] charter talks about vision and strategy…The movement is adhering to the constants and strategies outlined in the [Hamas] charter."

Dr. Mahmoud Zahar, interview in Arabic with elaph.com, October 11, 2005, MEMRI

"The Taliban are 1,000 times more honorable than the American occupation and its collaborators… We are not a copy of the Taliban... Judge us according to what we are. Everyone must stop blaming the Taliban for things that in fact characterize the people of the West, who seek to turn the international community into a swamp of corruption and destruction, and to spread abomination and disease in the name of absolute freedom...."

"We are part of Allah's promise that Islam will enter Palestine and every home in the world, with a revelation of the power of Allah the Omnipotent, and a revelation of the inferiority of the infidels. Hamas is leading this plan in Gaza, the West Bank, and the 1948 territories, and the Muslim Brotherhood is leading it everywhere else. This is part of Allah's predestination."

Sheik Nizar Rayan, Hamas "political" leader, at a rally in Gaza, Al-Jazeera TV on September 16, 2005, MEMRI

"The vanquishing of the enemy in Gaza does not mean that this stage has ended. We still have Jerusalem and the pure West Bank. We will not rest until we liberate all our land, all our Palestine. We do not distinguish between what was occupied in the 1940s and what was occupied in the 1960s. Our Jihad continues, and we still have a long way to go. We will continue until the very last usurper is driven out of our land."

Mushir al-Masri, Hamas spokesman, at a rally in Gaza, Al-Jazeera TV on September 16, 2005, MEMRI

"We stand here on our liberated land, near the armistice borders. We remember when Sharon said that Netzarim is like Tel Aviv. Hamas has said, via the lion of Palestine [Rantisi], that Gaza is like Tel Aviv. The promise that has been fulfilled and will be fulfilled in the future, oh Sharon, is the promise of Allah, and the promise of Hamas. Behold, Palestine is being liberated, Allah willing..."

"We have come here in multitudes to proclaim that Hirbiya and Ashkelon will be taken by the mujahideen. We have come here to say that the weapons of the resistance that you see here will remain, Allah willing, so that we can liberate Palestine – all of Palestine – from the Sea to the River, whether they like it or not."

Hamas leader Dr. Abdel Aziz Rantisi (killed in April 2004) at a rally in Gaza, March 28, 2004, AP

"We knew that Bush is the enemy of God, the enemy of Islam and Muslims. America declared war against God. Sharon declared war against God, and God declared war against America, Bush and Sharon."

Hamas statement issued after the assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Chicago Tribune, March 25, 2004

"The Zionists didn't carry out their operation without getting the consent of the terrorist American Administration, and it must take responsibility for this crime. All the Muslims of the world will be honored to join in on the retaliation for this crime."

Musa Abu Marzuq, Hamas leader, interview with Reuters, March 25, 2004

"We have never targeted an American target or American interests despite its hostility. Until now we did not. I am talking about now. In the future, God knows."

Hamas leader, Mahmoud Zahar, at funeral of Reem Raiyshi, who murdered 4 people, January 15, 2004, AP

"She [first Hamas woman suicide bomber] is not going to be the last because the march of resistance will continue until the Islamic flag is raised, not only over the minarets of Jerusalem, but over the whole universe."

Abdel Aziz Rantisi, Hamas leader, June 10, 2003, interview with Al-Jazeera, Jerusalem Post

"By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews..."

"You will have no security except outside the homeland Palestine.... We have Allah on our side, and we have the sons of the Arab and Islamic nation on our side."

Sheik Ahmed Yassin (killed in March 2004), January 30, 2003, Teheran Times

"America is implementing Zionist Israeli policy to serve the Zionist project in Palestine. The battle America is undertaking is designed to allow Israel to remain in the Palestinian homeland...."

"Zionist Israeli and Jewish policy is to strike every power emerging in the Arab and Muslim world… Any country that develops power threatening to this entity (Israel), they want to smash it."

Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview with the Muslim website Alskifa, January 10, 2003, translated by Israel Defense Forces

"Suicide attacks and jihad reinforce national unity in the ranks....Our voice is one of struggle, of jihad and of suicide....Iraq could win if it equipped its citizens with explosive belts and turned them into human bombs."

Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview with Australian Muslim youth magazine, Nida'ul Islam, June/ July 2002

"We reject this US domination and this frantic war. From our side, we concentrate on striking blows to it here in Palestine, with the aim of ironing out the Jewish entity in Palestine, which is the cause of trouble in the world..."

"America... always works in favor of the existence of the Israeli entity... This is mainly due to the Zionist-Christian conviction and the 70 million Americans who follow the Protestant creed, which is in favor of Jews against the Muslims. The same applies to most of Britain's population..."

"Because the Israeli and American enemies are ravaging the earth; they do not believe in anything besides power. The Ummah must adopt the principle of Jihad and fighting the enemies."

Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview, Palestine-info, March 2001, Early Hamas communiqués (distributed by Islamic Association for Palestine)

"The Movement within two months [after the intifada broke] was able to launch qualitative operations that shook the world… there are qualitative Jihad operations such as those in Natanya and Khadera. We are proud of such operations and the next days will witness better and bigger ones...."

"I say that the final battle will result in our victory and that this land will reject this enemy similar to its predecessors..."

"It is not a must that it would be in 2027 for it could be five years earlier or ten years later. The important thing is that the equation revolves round 2027 and the Hebrew state would end Insha'allah [God willing]."

cont. next post.

 

Now for the non-progandized reality:

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...leader-khaled-meshals-gaza-speech-when-he-did

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/understanding-hamas.html/comment-page-1

 

Uhm... leaving women and children at the launch site while saving yourself in a bomb shelter is a form of a human shield.

 

I am elated at the thought that I am not the only one here who has noticed the ignominious, deliberate sentiment.

 

Possibly, possibly not. It depends on the circumstances. If the women and children were forced or coerced then you have a point. What specific alleged incident are you referring to and what sources/links do you have?

 

So if the Israelis know that the terrorist is going to be in a bomb shelter and only the women and children will be at the launch site, the Israelis are targeting civilians. Since you and they know the terrorist aint there!

 

Lol that is it? Lol. You ignore what they say and provide two statements that do not address what they said in any way-not to mention you stay silent on all the international laws they break?

Yes that's what I expect from you-a lack of basic credibility-a response that ignores what is put to you and tries to change the subject but can't.

Your inability to respond to what Hamas in fact said and what in fact it does speaks for itself.

Now go on continue deny this comment stated to Al Monitor...go on deny it too....

"Hamas will not recognize Israel. This is a red line that cannot be crossed. The future government is not interested in providing Israel with recognition, and the conditions set by the Quartet committee do not concern us one bit. We would have spared ourselves seven years of misery under the siege and two wars in 2008 and 2012 had we wanted to recognize Israel. Hamas underwent great political pressure and suffering during the past years, and yet it did not recognize Israel."


source: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/...rael-fatah-reconciliation.html##ixzz3AygHQoo6



Abu Marzouk: Hamas will not recognize Israel. This is a red line that cannot be crossed. The future government is not interested in providing Israel with recognition, and the conditions set by the Quartet committee do not concern us one bit. We would have spared ourselves seven years of misery under the siege and two wars in 2008 and 2012 had we wanted to recognize Israel. Hamas underwent great political pressure and suffering during the past years, and yet it did not recognize Israel.


Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...rael-fatah-reconciliation.html##ixzz3AygHQoo6

 

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Trout's attempt to avoid and deny what Hamas is has past the point of return.

In fact Trout is well aware Khaled Meshal, Hamas' "political" leader, wrote a recent position paper on the destruction fo Israel.

That paper lists nineteen positions of Hamas in regards to Israel:


1. Palestine from the river to the sea, and from north to south, is a land of the Palestinian people and its homeland and its legitimate right, we may not a waiver an inch or any part thereof, no matter what the reasons and circumstances and pressures.

2. Palestine - all of Palestine - is a land of Islamic and Arab affiliation, a blessed sacred land, that has a major portion in the heart of every Arab and Muslim

3. No recognition of the legitimacy of the occupation whatever; this is a principled position, political and moral, and therefore do not recognize the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and recognition of "Israel" and the legitimacy of its presence on any part of Palestine no matter how long; nand it will not be long, God willing.

4. Liberation of Palestine is a national duty; it is the responsibility of the Palestinian people and the Arab and Islamic nation, it is also a humanitarian responsibility in accordance with the requirements of truth and justice.

5. Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle

6. Resistance is a means and not an end, if we have another way without blood and painful sacrifices to liberate the land and ending the occupation and the restoration of rights we would take it, but history proves that there is no option to expel the occupiers and restore the land and rights without using all forms of resistance, led by armed resistance.

7. We are not fighting Jews because they are Jews, but are fighting the Zionist Jews occupiers, the aggressors, and we will fight anyone who tries to attack us or usurp our rights or occupy our land, regardless of religion or affiliation, race or nationality.

8. The Zionist project is a racist project based on murder and terrorism, and so it is the enemy of the Palestinian people and the nation, and is a real threat to them, and a huge threat to its security and interests, and it is not an exaggeration to say that it is a danger to the security of the humanitarian community and the interests and stability.

9. Jerusalem is an Islamic and Christian [holy place], we many not give it up not relinquish any part of it, it is our right and our spirit, our history, our present and our future, which is the capital of Palestine, and dearest to the hearts of Arabs and Muslims.... Israel has no legitimacy and no right to to Jerusalem at all, nor any legitimacy nor right to all of Palestine. And all actions of Israel in Jerusalem to Judaize and settle and falsification of facts and attempts to fabricate history are void.

10. Upholding the right of return of Palestinian refugees and displaced persons to their homes from which they were expelled, or were prevented from returning, both in the occupied territories in 1948 or 1967, to all of Palestine; we refuse to compromise in any way for this right. At the same time reject all settlement projects or alternative homelands.... [some detail on how people proposed Lebanon or Jordan or the Sinai as alternate homelands]

11. The unity of the Palestinian land: The West Bank (including Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip and the occupied land of 1948, one land with all its geography, it is one unit, not part separated from the other, which is a whole nation of the Palestinian people. The situation in Gaza now is exceptional and imposed on us, and not a natural situation, we can not accept that Gaza is separate...

12. And the unity of the Palestinian people Muslims and Christians, and all its intellectual, political and ideological components, and with all the strength and factions, militant and political.

13. The unity of the Palestinian political system and its institutions, and national unity of his authority through the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which needs to be rebuilt on valid grounds, to include all the Palestinian forces and components. ...

14. ...The state is the real first fruit of liberation; there is no alternative to the establishment of a Palestinian state, with real sovereignty over the entire territory.

15. [True] Palestinian national independence: a principle which is based on the non-dependence on any country or party in the world; friend or an ally or an enemy or opponent. But that does not mean that we ...are weakening the Arab and Islamic role, Palestine was and will remain Arab and Islamic, but also a humanitarian issue.

16. Institution-building and the Palestinian National authorities should always be on the basis of democracy, and in the forefront of free and fair elections, equal opportunities....

17. Non-interference in the affairs of other countries, and not to engage in themes and conflicts and alignments between nations....

18. The unity of the nation with all its components, ethnic and religious, we are one nation...

19. Any position or a political programs or tactical initiatives or must be in line with the Palestinian national principle that we have mentioned....therefore we reject any draft agreements or settlements that diminish those principles, principles affecting Palestinian national rights.

GO ON TROUT EXPLAIN HOW THE ABOVE WRITTEN BY THIS MAN DOES NOT MEAN WHAT IT STATES. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN.

 

The link I provided showed that his views were deliberately misrepresented and mistranslated for propaganda purposes. My other link shows conclusively that the Hamas Charter is irrelevant in 2014 and is cited by pro-Israeli fanatics for propaganda and ideological purposes. Even that establishment-friendly, the revolutionary, Sir Richard Greenstock, no less, has publicly admitted that the Charter is an irrelevant historical relic. Every sane and sentient human being understands this.

 

I suppose the Hamas Charter which calls for the extermination of world Jewry is mistranslated too right? FYI Jerusalem never belonged to them and "the right of return" is code for the destruction of Israel through a demographic shift, and "Palestine" to Hamas includes Israel proper.

 

they are targeting rocket launchers which happen to be legitimate military targets.

Hamas on the other hand is shooting from densely populated areas keeping women and children around and leaving them behind, in fact encouraging them to stay. It's disgusting and despicable, let alone crimes against humanity.

>>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<<

 

No it hasn't but it's an historical relic - a complete irrelevance in 2014 as my link outlines..