Keeping Their Voters Stupid Keeps Republicans Elected

Because it ain't free.




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That's how I feel about the two party system overall.

 

Of course, it was if you were fortunate enough to live in Massachusetts when Willard signed RomneyCare into law, calling his individual mandate "ultimate conservatism", and it was Republican Jim DeMint who proclaimed it "something we should do for the whole country." Based upon a concept propouned by Republican Newtie Gingrich and endorsed by the conservative Heritage Foundation, I doubt that we would have the Affordable Care Act if not for all those Republicans pushing it.

 

that is exaclty the point, I have to pay for it if there is no mandate. I dont like that. You cant make me buy something I dont want, you know, like your healthcare.

 

And yet it was the democrats who forced it down the nations throat.

 

Then argue about the requirement that you have to pay for Joe's healthcare if there is no mandate, instead of adding a new requirement that Bob has to pay for Joe's healthcare.

Unfortunately, voters can make you buy something you don't want: motorcycle helmets, car seats, auto insurance, Bluetooth headsets... The difference here is that instead of requiring you to buy something if you want to use a public service, they are requiring you to buy something if you're a U.S. citizen (which makes it a tax).






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Anyone who needs to enhance his self-image by resorting to a hyper-ideological website that makes him feel good by telling him he's wicked smart is a hoot!

Meanwhile Fox does provide you with a list of the best-educated and worst-educated states based upon census bureau data so that you can see how education impacts political orientation.

 

Politicus-------enough said......LOL

 

They did not "force" RomneyCare" "down the nation's throat." Representatives and Senators elected by the American people passed it and a president they elected signed it into law - and a conservative Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality with minor quibbles.

There will be nothing to prevent a GOP-controlled House and Senate from voting to repeal it, but they won't.

Nationalized RomneyCare is here to stay until pragmatists can emulate the inclusive, efficient, and far less costly models of advanced nations, and overcome the special interest middle man for whom it is a generous cash cow.

 

Of course it isn't free. Neither are roads or bridges but we need those too.

The real question is why are we paying so much for so little ? Every other first world nation has universal healthcare. We spend the most on healthcare over any of these nations and we don't have Universal

What the frick is wrong with this picture ? We spend more but get less.

How is it that our private system can be more inefficient that the bloated bureaucratic systems in these other aforementioned systems ?

The fact is that a private heathcare delivery in a free market "Can NOT" be more inefficient that these other systems. Such is a total impossibility.

Why then are we paying more but getting less. ?

 

I know republicans won't repeal it and that pisses me off too. The fact is though no citizen should be forced against their will to buy any product the government says. They did it with healthcare and they can do it again in the future with something else.

 

The answer is consumer expectations. We treat healthcare like a product, and many of the guarantees and services we now provide in delivering that product are expensive.

Used to be you got medical advice from a doctor, to use as you saw fit to solve your own medical problems ... and the price was reasonable. Now we expect the doctor to deliver to us a solution. To fix us, like a mechanic might fix a car. And that's more expensive.

Installing a lap band instead of advising you to run laps adds to the cost. Getting a side order of Lipitor, instead of eating less cheeseburgers adds to the cost. Guaranteeing a prognosis, requires more tests; guaranteeing a result requires more malpractice insurance.

Making someone else responsible for giving you healthcare, instead of buying their advice and renting their skills is more expensive. Many folks in America can afford that luxury, the problem was we confused that with the level of baseline services provided as a right in other countries. So now that luxury has become a right.





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All these other systems "where someone else is responsible for giving you heathcare" are less expensive than our private system.

I am not sure if things will change under Obamacare but I doubt it.

The answer to the previous question I posed "why is our private system more expensive" is because of "Price Fixing" and anti competitive practices.

We might as well have a gov't run bureaucracy (with free doses of Lipitor) and universal heath care for everyone if it is going to be cheaper than the current system.​

 

Ah, you mean voting for saving the nation instead of voting for handouts from democrat bureaucrats. Got it. Yeah, some people actually have principles and don't think it is right to live off of other people's money. Go figure.

 

I agree one thing for sure. We need a third and fourth party. Both sides needs to allow other opinions. Their little good ole boy two party crap needs to stop. They both hold back the other parties together. There will never be real change unless this two party system is taken down. Obama should be the proof of this. Promised change and is now nothing more than Bush Jr Jr. Obushma!!!

 

That is such a tired old argument. The government forces me to buy a Coast Guard and I live in the desert. The government forces me to buy roads that I will never drive on. The government forces me to buy protection for Exxon-Mobil's tanker fleet with a 7-ocean navy. The government forces me to pay for Wall Street blunders. What kind of a Pollyanna world do you live in where you aren't forced to buy crap?

 

One reason is because more than 50% of healthcare dollars come from government (before Obamacare and more now) with strings attached. Hardly a competitive cost effective system, in fact the antithesis of one.

 

Sorry, you are confusing infrastructure with healthcare..........

 

So you think it is OK then, right? BTW, when is the last time government forced you to buy a Coast Gaurd. Post the invoice.

 

A. Not everyone Peppermint, is a selfish little twit who only votes their one self interest. That would be liberals.
B. Why is it that it's the Democrats who insist poor people attend non-performing, union-run, violent public schools with dropout rates of over 50% for black males in some cities? It seems like Democrats don't want them educated.
C. And why is it the Democrats who insist their voters are too stupid and too irresponsible to get an ID to show when they vote?

No, the leftists don't want people educated and have been so successful at destroying education in America tha now they want to deal with health care.

 

Obamacare isn't universal health care. It's a hodge podge of pork barrel laws and taxes that shuffle around much of the cost for an out of control private health care without fixing an out of control private health care system or offering a less popular but more affordable solution through real universal health care.







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Says the Obama supporter......lol. ...in a sad sorta way.

 

States! Think about what you just said. If you knew ANYTHING about statistics then you would know that you use the smallest unit of measurement. The studies I alluded to use actual people and their SAT, ACT and other metrics. Not to mention the 2010 study was done by a Liberal professor and admitted that the outcome wasn't what he expected. You don't know anything about this subject at all. Just as when you look at the breakdown of welfare assistance it overwhelmingly goes to democratic DISTRICTS. You have proven my point that liberals are woefully uneducated about a great many things.

 

That wasn't the issue. The issue was government forcing you to pay for things you don't necessarily want or utilize.

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You don't think Coast Guards grow on trees, do you?

 

If you don't drive, you don't pay for roads............

The Coast Guard is not a PRODUCT