Keeping Their Voters Stupid Keeps Republicans Elected

I wonder how the left is educating it's base on Obama's trade deals and how that's affecting jobs here?

 

I'm not a fan of the ACA, but as Romney had explained,

"When they show up at the hospital, they get care, they get free care, paid for by you and me. If that's not a form of socialism, I don't know what is. So my plan did something quite different. It said, you know what, if people can afford to buy insurance, if they can afford to buy insurance, or if they can pay their own way, then they either buy that insurance or pay their own way, but they no longer look to government to hand out free care. And that, in my opinion, is ultimate conservatism. That's why the Heritage Foundation worked with us and was at the celebration of the signing. The Heritage Foundation, as you know, a quintessentially conservative group, recognized that the principles of free enterprise and personal responsibility were at work." ​

So, the Republican who praised, promoted and first enacted the ACA's "individual mandate" approach was replacing a form of "socialism."

 

And yet it was still democrats who forced the ACA down America's throat. That's already been explained to you.

 

Yes, electoral votes are allocated by states, and according to Fox, the best-educated ones are overwhelmingly "blue" and the worst-educated overwhelmingly "red."

You will find comparable correspondences in states' median family incomes and quality of life.

 

I envy anyone who can live in a world where they so genuinely believe that one side, their side, is good, where the other is mischievous, deviant, dishonest, and otherwise just evil.

 

Obama is totally Bush Jr., and I wish more people would clue in to this reality.

Watching these political ads coming out is so far beyond mind bogglingly its not even funny. "So and so is in the party of Obama and the world is going to end because of Obama so vote for Stalin so that the world can end but just under a different name"

No substance, no vision, just dream up some fearful apocalyptic scenario and attach your opponent to that scenario. This other guy is really really really really really really scary so vote for me.

The strange thing is that in many respects, I really do think this current administration is doing some scary things. The problem is that these are the same scary things that the previous administration did in many respects.

The biggest problem is that the raging masses really do not have a clue what scary is.

Amnesty for children born in the US whose parents were illegals (and perhaps amnesty for some of these parents who have not done any crimes but been here for decades). Is this really that scary ?

Obamacare - The healthcare system was broken before Obama. We have no universal healthcare like other first world nations yet our costs are higher than these other nations who do have universal healthcare. Is Obamacare making things worse ? For some yes, and for others no. Is Obamacare really that scary ? ... perhaps but no more scary that what we had previously.

What is scary is that both parties are afraid to challenge the Oligopolies that are responsible for the high cost and low benefit nature of our health system where price fixing and anti competitive practices are the rule rather than the exception.

What is scary is a president that stands up and says "if we want increased security ... we have to give a little" referring to NSA spying. That the head of the NSA can lie before congress still keep his job never-mind doing any jail time or being punished.

The odds of harm from a terrorist attack are 400 times lower than the odds of harm from going for a walk. The risk of harm from driving a car to work in the morning ? Thousands of times higher !.

Yet, we have Harvard Constitutional Lawyer standing before us telling us that we need to give up the rights and freedoms, rights that so many have fought and sacrificed their lives for, over what ?

Over an unproven promise for increased security against a risk of harm that is thousands of times lower than what most of us normally experience in our lives on a daily basis ?

Now that is scary. What we really need increased security from is further intrusion of Government into our lives. Now that scary.

Stalin did not invent use of fear of a foreign threat to take away the rights of the citizens but, he pretty much wrote the textbook "Security for the Motherland"
Hitler followed suit "Fatherland Security"

Bush used fear of a foreign threat to take away rights and called it "Homeland Security" Now that is Scary.

Militerization of our Police forces .... That is scary.

Decreased protection in law from search an seizure ... That is scary.

Everytime one turns around ... Politicians and the mass media are ramping up the fear factor ... That is scary. That politicians are doing so with the purpose of taking away rights and freedoms ... That is even more scary.

That Oligopolies are in control of our politicians, influence regulations to keep the little guy down, engage in anti competitive practices, and are turning workers into slaves. Scary

That we no longer have much of a free market economy due to the aforementioned. Scary

That we wasted trillions of dollars on a pointless war/action in Iraq... Scary

That the stated reason for spending these trillions of dollars in Iraq was "fear of terrorism due to Al Qaeda" when Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda terrorism and in fact Saddam had been fighting against such groups prior to the war as Saddam and Bin Ladin were blood enemies. (Saddam's Iraq was secular and that is the worst thing imaginable to Al Qaeda ... worse even than the US infidels) .... Fricken Scary.

That a few short later we are giving weapons and support to extremists who are affiliated with or are direct members of Al Qaeda ??? Priceless Scary.

That we pull out of the ABM treaty in 2002 and then start putting ABM's on Russian borders in Poland and Czechoslovakia in 2007 forcing Russia to take counter measures (short and medium range missiles - in violation of the short range missile treaty) Scary

The idea behind the Anti Ballistic Missile treaty was such that neither side would get the hair brained idea that nuclear war was winnable " we shoot ours an then when the other side retaliates we shoot them down with ABM's"


Then to listen to Obama stand up in public and feign ignorance (only a complete idiot does not realize that - Of course Russia is going to take counter measures to protect itself Duh, and Obama, or at least the 50 advisors that would have advised him of this fact are no idiots) and chastise Russia for violating the treaty. Well no Shart Sherlock. What did you think the Russians were going to do when we unilaterally backed out of the ABM treaty and then put ABM's on Russian borders ???????

What would we do if Russians started putting ABMs on our borders ????? Scary Ramping up the arms race is scary.

When Bush backed out of the ABM treaty in 2002 ... Putin's response "This is a mistake"

Counter measures to ABM's are numerous and simple. The aforementioned short and medium range cruise nukes are just one. Subs are obviously another.

The other obvious counter, and one the Russians have mentioned in relation to continued US aggression, is nukes in space.

Currently it takes roughly 30 minutes for a Russian nuke to get to the US. I'm not sure about you folks but it does not make me sleep better at night thinking about a nuke above my head in space that is only 30 seconds away...

Now that is scary.

 

How are the left winger wackos teaching their base about how Obama has lied and hasn't held up most if his promises?

 

You still don't get it. Please, for the love of cheese will you go and look up some youtube videos about basic statistics. You are embarrassing.

I just posted two studies that show that liberals are in fact DUMBER (on an actual person by person comparison the smallest unit of measure you can get) than fiscal conservatives or classical liberals ie Libertarians.

 

There you go. Ignore the facts if they don't support your lie. But your suggestion of going back and rereading your post was a good point. You claimed: "By the way Republicans passed the Bill, they simply made a lot of excuses afterwards,". 178 out of 178 Republican Congressmen and 39 of 41 Republican Senators voted against the ACA. But please, don't let the facts get in the way of your lie.

Psst, the first step towards a cure is admitting the problem. If you lie like a mainstream media spoon fed liberal, then you probably are one.

 

Does she believe that or are is that your opinion of what she believes? I find the more I dig here that more people than one would suspect actually believe neither side is perfect and both need to do alot of work to get their act in order, if that is even possible now.

 

The poster I was replying to said they were forced to buy the product the government was selling. My point was they did not have to buy that product but could have shopped around. In the end I explained that. You on the other hand decided you need to jump in and add your two cents and it was obvious then as it still is that you missed my point and now I see you are also one of those that cannot actually discuss anything with throwing in personal insults and attacks. I have no interest is wasting time in some sort of spitting game and understand it would be a waste of my time to attempt further discussion with you. So run along and don't waste any further effort on your part posting to me until you can leave that "stuff" at the door. Good Day.

 

It's what I find her posts suggest is her view (is she a her? I never know on this forum haha). And of course I don't mean it exactly and fully, there's a little bit of exaggeration in my statement.

 

Yes, that may raise your self-esteem, and I'm sorry to upset you.

. The fact that better-educated states vote one way and the worst-educated the other is predicated upon the populace of those states, and the smarter ones elect smarter folks to represent them and the converse obvilously applies.

 

And now you are using congress. *facepalm* Considering the demographics of the legislature look NOTHING like America especially considering that the vast majority of them are lawyers don't you think that might just bias things slightly.

And you still haven't responded to the two studies I showed where they took actual people in every day life and analyzed their actual test scores and other metrics and found that liberals are dumber than fiscal conservatives and Libertarians. Why do you keep ignoring that.

Seriously........congress?

 

Then neither is your insurance policy.

 

LOL, if Republicans are so stupid then why are all the Demoncrats lying, acting like they never supported or even voted for obama, and pretending they are conservative and hanging around Republicans (like Nunn is doing with her ads showing her posing with Bush Sr)? Are dem voters so stupid that they will believe all these blatant lies? We will find out next week.

 

Well because -- er -- well -- um . . . you hate Obama because he plays golf and so there! It's sorta now beginning to reach that level of base reasoning with many of our Obama supporters nowadays. Sweet!

 

Well, before you run away with your tail between your legs, let me point out what you missed. First of all, the government does not sell insurance, and RedWolf never claimed that they did.

RedWolf:

Prior to the passage of the ACA, an individual could choose whether to buy health insurance, or not. They could choose from a variety of packages and features. They could choose a plan that meets their needs without paying for coverage for things they don't need. But the passage of the ACA changed all that. Tailored made plans have been replaced by a one size fits all plan, and if you choose not to buy one of these one size fits all plans you are fined. So, it does not matter how much an individual shops around, any plan that they choose will have to meet the ACA's standards. Therefore, it will be one of the one size fits all plans. So, your choice is to buy one of their plans, or not. But if you choose not to, you will be fined. Exactly as RedWolf stated.

I don't expect you to respond. Just go ahead, and run away.

 

Considering the growing list of voting machines rigged to turn Republican votes into dem, the OP makes a pretty bold assertion...

 

So you want to push Joe to the curb?

 

Your extremely slanted link is way short on facts and very long on obnoxious opinion. Many of us are keenly aware of why people who link to such drivel do so. The whole "voting against one's self-interests" is such a tired meme, as is the extremely arrogant opinion that the writer of the drivel, (or YOU, for that matter) are more qualified to determine what is in someone else's self-interests than that person is himself or herself. My "self-interest" and what drives my political choices is far more complex than simply voting for "what's in it economically for ME". Just because something happens to benefit me financially or personally in some other way doesn't necessarily make it a good idea for national policy.

 

In these other systems nearly 100% comes from government. The reason ours is more expensive is not about who is paying the bill. Its who is doing the billing.

 

What does the stupidity of Republicans have to do with the actions of Democrats ?

 

Insurance is most certainly a product.

Where you're confused is because it is actually a tax.
Sure, Obama denies that, and thus you won't dare agree either, but along with all the other new taxes in Obamacare... it's a tax.

Your silly argument fails because you can't purchase a Coast Guard. You are funding it through governmental taxation.
But, the next time you have to go to a Marketplace to buy a Coast Guard.... let me know and I'll edit this post.

 

Unfortunatly as you have demonstrated again and again there are exceptions to most generalizations.