Marvel and their poltically left ideology. *SPOILERS*

1) Who cares about Iceman being gay?
2) Who cares if MJ is black?
3) The alt-right has the same mindset as Hydra.
4) Do you really think that the Black Panther and Spiderman are going to stay dead?
5) Does anyone on the right understand the meaning of Communism or Socialism? Hint: It doesn't involve killing half of the galaxy's population.

 

Just keep putting out your extremist right-wing propaganda, it helps the ratings.

 

From that you can get to the study http://www.nber.org/papers/w22173.pdf

It is from "the national bureau of economic research" It is some good stuff if people are willing to go through it. So far I would say many of the things in it support your stance.

 

Since Wildjoker couldn't answer, it stands for "Social Justice Warrior". The Hard Right hates them because they think that fighting for social justice is bad. People who use the term usually think that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery and that LGBTQ is a mental disease. Also, they don't understand why black people haven't just moved into nicer neighborhoods and gotten better jobs over the last 50+ years since the Civil Rights Act.

 

Who cared that he was straight? Why change it? Why not create a new character who is gay?

No one really, it was a "toe in the water". Get that Overton window moving.

And they have the same mindset as BLM, La Raza, and anyone else who does identity politics. Their economic mindset is also socialist. They are "alt-right" cause they aren't actually right wing.

No, why?

Yet that has been the final result.

Thanos ideology, make it easier for people to survive with less work.
Socialist ideology, make it easier for people to survive with less work.

 

Anyone right of stalin is "hard right" to SJWs.

 

No. It was about limited resources, not available work as a resource.

What do you mean by "toe in the water"? It sounds like you are thinking that this is some bigger effort to cast white characters as black or otherwise instead of just casting great actors / personalities for these roles. And perhaps taking advantage of a larger acting pool when casting a group of heroes that is overwhelmingly white in the comics. Do you think Zendaya was a bad choice? Do you think that Samuel L Jackson was a poor choice?

 

Gets the same results, MILLIONS/Trillions dead based off of feelz vs reality.

Zendaya is playing an alien who looks exactly as the comics. SLJ, forgot about him. Great actor. Guess you wouldn't have been upset if Ta'Chala was changed right? You probably had no problem with the actor playing Iron Fist (who sucked anyways).

The acting pool is large no matter what race youre looking for. Red wings movie didn't flop cause of the actors skin color, it was just a bad movie with great actors.

 

Netflix's Daredevil restored my faith that Ben Afleck previously destroyed. And casting Electra as a blond American in the movie was horrible.

Without changing the storyline considerably, it would have been strange. For characters where race has zip to do with the storyline, like MJ, it is different. Can you not understand that?

 

Nope. Thanos’ whole motivation was wiping out half of all sentient life so populations don’t go hungry or have no more resources.

 

why are you so upset that comic book characters are different kinds of people now? comic books as a medium has been dominated by reimagining since the 70s. superhero mantles passing to different people is nothing new. the mantle of spiderman has been held by 4 different characters. grant morrison's interpretation of dc's batman franchise had a two-face that was cured of his coin obsession. alan moore completely changed the backstory of swamp thing.

comic book universes have always been shared and subject to completely new interpretations of longstanding ideas. superhero mantles passing on to characters that are gay or black or whatever isn't that different from the way things already go.

 

I doubt it, sure the Mary Jane thing was pretty lame just because she is "The Known RedHead" but whatever.

Black Panther I thought was a good movie, 89/90 ish, the reaction to it may have been over the top PC but that is just because it is the first of its kind but whatever. Still a good movie.

Star Wars was done so over the top and yes, was ruined. But Marvel is way too in control of what is going on and they aren't stupid enough to polarize the "Universe" like that. If anything, you should be happy that Thanos, the Ultimate Evil, is so communistic I would think ...

But I highly doubt Captain Marvel will be the saving grace you are talking about, if anything just a larger piece of the puzzle. I guess we will see, but my bet is that Cap dies and Stark is irrevocably changed, Captain Marvel is a big deal but will only be a piece of the puzzle.

She will not be the "I Win" button that Superman is in DC, if that's what you are thinking.

I could be wrong, perhaps they do so and destroy a massive portion of their fanbase, but I just think Marvel is smarter than that.

We'll see

 

Black Panther 2 is already being planned, as is another Spider-Man movie, so it's obvious that all of these Thanos related deaths will be undone in the next Avengers movie.

 

You mean like weapons and the First Amendment?

 

Communism has racked up a pretty good body count, so I think there is reason to question that Communism doesn't require it. It may not be in Das Kapital, but in practical terms that seems to be what happens when commies are given free rein.

And in a related note, the real SJW of Infinity War was Thanos. He wanted to eliminate half the population of the universe because he didn't think it was sustainable. Thanos believed in sustainable solutions wanted to solve the problems of income inequality and food insecurity (see Gamora's homeworld).

I see a Green Party ticket in Thano's future!

 

This statement is more idiotic than the OP's statement itself. You wonder why people like the OP think the way they do when you state such childish things.

 

Yet you seem incapable of debating the statement.

 

You want me to "debate" the negative that the "alt-right" is Hydra? lol How old are you?

Here ya go:

1) Who cares about Iceman being gay?
I would assume gay people "care" about it, likewise I would assume anyone who is attached to the character who has been written to "care" about it.
2) Who cares if MJ is black?
Same as above, I just think if they were going to add a black character, doing it on THE character known for her red hair in the MCU was a bad choice. A LOT of people have agreed.
3) The alt-right has the same mindset as Hydra.
So you think the "alt-right" is a parasitic organisation bent on world domination inside our government? Not sure where to start as to an argument on this one ...
4) Do you really think that the Black Panther and Spiderman are going to stay dead?
I don't, but I have read the comics and seen the movie deals in place. My poor 11 year old niece came home crying because her step dad took her to see it. My sister was not amused.
5) Does anyone on the right understand the meaning of Communism or Socialism? Hint: It doesn't involve killing half of the galaxy's population.
Thanos is treating "Life" as a resource, he wants to distribute it "PERFECTLY BALANCED" (the main quote he repeats) throughout the Universe because "he believes" it will be a better means with which to distribute it. That is pretty much how socialism treats other resources, the analogy is pretty darn good actually.

 

I have no personal issue with superheroes being other than white (because I couldn't give a flying f about your damned skin tone), but I have a problem with them being gay or female, for the following reason - the fandom has always been predominantly male. And here's why that's important: the entire premise of the superhero, is that 'during the day' he is an everyman. An ordinary guy. A guy his readers/audiences can relate to. When you mess with that everyman premise, you dismantle the motif. You remove the connection point between the superhero and his fans.

Further, given that only a very small percentage of males are gay, it's quite absurd to put one in every core cast of 3 or 4. That is if the makers are interested in reflecting realistic demographics, as they claim they are.

 

everyman premises are cowardly and i don't respect them

 

Yeah, but that's only because you're a Dangerous Edge-lord, and can't be caged. The rest of male-kind live in the real world, and need to do Everyman-ing to keep themselves and their clan alive. It's a small satisfaction to them to sit in a dark theatre and pretend that ... 'hey, if this regular dude can be a superhero, maybe I can too', before returning home to the lawn mowing and mortgage payments.

 

this is exactly why capitalism produces mediocre, stagnating art.

 

Oh yeah. Because the commies are famous for their inspired art

 

But aren't we? Dada and Surrealism were dominated by communists. Picasso was an outspoken Communist. The situationists, who invented modern performance art, invented it in the pursuit of a new communist strategy. Punk Rock is steeped in communist interpretations of anarchism, with their DIY, anti-commercial ethos. It seems to me that communists reinvent the arts as a matter of habit.

 

Oh please .. you're talking about European toffs, playing at 'communism'. Every one of these 'artists' had total freedom and comparative wealth. Just more of your Cafe Poseur Socialism.

Try the real communism, and see how much art is produced at Tractor Factory Number 378. Where workers are housed on site, in dorms, with zero access to the materials of leisure (even if they had the down time in which to use them, after their 6 x 10 hour days). Besides, art is as dangerous as religion, and strictly forbidden within the Collective.