Mass killings by president

Pretty sure that the indigenous people in America were refereed to as savages in the Deceleration of Independence.

Excellent read and it's not revisionist history.
A Fate Worse Than Death -> https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/02/a-fate-worse-than-death/

 

Correct. The US is not only new to the international stage, but more advanced in terms of human rights. I think there are forces, both Left and Right, who seek to take us backwards through authoritarianism on rights, but we're still leading the world.

 

You can hear echoes of that in his own posts with the reverence for "private property". This is a wealth extraction/redistribution/concentration paradigm concept. Our system applies this to the natural world, we "buy" water now. Can air fit to breath be all that far off? We'll all wind up owing some corporate state entity for access to life while he clings to his guns. Fweedumb.

 

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

 

Your spelling's atrocious, but yes, and thanks for making my point. America was founded upon genocide, from the very beginning. Read Columbus’ first thoughts upon making landfall and encountering indigenous peoples. Read the Papal Bulls of the 1500s calling for their extermination. It was the plan from the very beginning.

Thank you.

 

Cars killed more Americans in the past 50 years than every US war ever

 

Your land was settled via genocide. And you know it, that's why you need to compare yourself to communists and fascists. Quite "exceptional".

 

Great! Thoughts and prayers.

 

That happened all the time to Native Americans in the past. Entire villages ordered to surrender their weapons and then later either the entire village 100% slaughtered or all the men. Even instances of all the return Native American men out hunting upon return being slaughtered after surrendering to try to stop the abuse of the children and women after the village overrun by the US military. Particularly in the SW, "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" was military policy - even against peaceful tribes and villages.

 

Columbus wasn't an American, he wasn't even a WASP.

 

Maybe it's in the genetics. Many people in Texas claim Senator Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer and his father was in on the JFK assassination.

 

Interesting perspective, but the fact the author uses dated terms like "red" makes me suspicious of its balanced perspective. More importantly, his claim not a single woman wanted to go back is false. Yes, I agree Hollywood is full of ****, but there are several accounts of euro children captured by native americans who grew to embrace the culture.

From the Texas State Historical Society: https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/bxi01
...Indian raiders killed captive children who lagged behind when the Indians were pursued. Children who arrived safely at the Indian village, however, usually were adopted as replacements for deceased relatives and thereafter treated as true sons or daughters. Many of these youngsters enjoyed the wild, free life of the Indians and became so completely assimilated that they resisted attempts to redeem them. Some youths became fierce warriors who raided the settlements. Among the most formidable "white Indians" were Clinton and Jeff Smith, Herman Lehmann, Adolph Korn, Rudolph Fischer, and Kiowa Dutch.

White girls captured before the age of puberty usually became assimilated and married chiefs or warriors. The most famous of these, Cynthia Ann Parker, married the Comanche chief Peta Nocona and became the mother of Quanah Parker, last war chief of the tribe. When recaptured by Lawrence Sullivan Ross in 1860 and reunited with her relatives, she tried to run away to her Indian family. Millie Durgan lived happily to old age as the wife of a Kiowa warrior. On the other hand, girls taken at childbearing age hated their captors and sometimes risked their lives to escape. Martina Díaz, one of many captives redeemed by the Indian agent Lawrie Tatum, hid in his house from threatening warriors. Matilda Lockhart, thirteen years old when captured and treated brutally by the Comanches, precipitated the Council House Fight in San Antonio in 1840 when she accused the Indians of hiding other captives.

Many Texas captives were rescued or ransomed by relatives, Texas Rangersqv, soldiers, Indian agents, or traders. Britton Johnson, a black rancher, traded goods for his own wife and children, the sister of Millie Durgan, and several other captives. Sam Houston purchased Mrs. Elizabeth Kellogg, seized in the Comanche raid on Fort Parker in 1836, from friendly Delaware Indians. Two young boys taken in the same raid, John Parker and James Plummer, were ransomed by Gen. Zachary Taylor in 1842. Gen. Albert Sidney Johnston rescued Rebecca Jane Fisher and her brother, William Gilleland, captured by Comanches who killed their parents near Refugio in 1842. Sul Ross redeemed a young white girl in 1858 during an attack on a Comanche village. She had forgotten her name, and her identity was never established. She was raised as a member of his family and given the name Lizzie Ross.

When the Comanches and Kiowas were driven onto reservations north of the Red River and compelled to release their prisoners, many captives had become so completely assimilated that they chose to remain with their captors. Most of these had married Indians, and it is estimated that 30 percent of Apaches, Comanches, and Kiowas had captive blood in their veins.

 

I suppose the above makes some sort of sense to you.

 

Manifest Destiny

Manifest Destiny

The Scott-Irish led the way followed by Americans and immigrants of Englishmen, Germans, Irish, Scottish, Norwegians and
Swedes a few Frenchmen and some Turkish dude known as Hi Jolly.



Notice that it was the pioneers not the military who settled the West.
The federal government and the military arrived after the pioneers.

"God created men...Samuel Colt made them equal"

"Winchester won the West"

 

As I pointed out, it's not revisionist history and revisionist history is political correctness.

 

It only exists because there are those who make sure it exists. When we talk about other countries like Germany we refer to them as Germans not as Afro-Germans, Arab - Germans, American - Germans. Cubans are referred to as Cubans even though they are can be of different color. We condemn the caste systems of India but we promote the economic class system in America and the social class system by race. We can never really overcome until we are labeled as Americans only. In the Olympics are team is referred as Americans even though we have many different races of people on it. When they come home they will be white - Americans, black - Americans, Mexican - Americans, etc. We have done it to ourselves. Almost every form I fill out that wants personal information asks for race. Why? Many of us, if we went to Ancestry. com may find we are many races.

 

I'm speaking in general. Just some hours after the shooting every newspaper in Sweden went nuts about Trump. Swedish newspapers are copy/paste from American CNN, Sky News etc.

 

Actually I found the chart racist. I think you will find out the person who did the shooting was at least part Hispanic. Not that it has a damn thing to do with anything, a lot of the victims were Hispanic.

 

Well if we are going to go that route I would argue that Gettysburg was the largest mass shooting at "gunpoint"

 

The reason people don't care about stuff like this is because it is really skewed in one obvious direction.

Something like 65% of gun deaths are suicides, then another 20-30% are gang related gunfire deaths.

Bringing statistics like those into the equation make it seem like we should have FAR different priorities than trying to ban guns or whatever else seems to be the point of such a graph.

 

Unfair is not the word in my view. I don't know what the correct word is and Trump is doing nothing because the NRA supports him.
He has to get off that and do the right thing for the American people. The 35 billion dollar cost for the wall (one estimate) would be much better used to aid in the effort to make our schools safer. The wall is mostly for his ego whereas safer schools are for our children and would have no problem passing in the Congress. And some form of gun control because gun ownership needs some oversite.

 

Hard to tell who the American people are with about 30 million illegals in the country. Safety first at our borders. Like most school shootings the core problem seems to be about a feeling of an injustice toward the individual. Conflict resolution in the schools needs to be looked at. There have been over 200 school shootings in our nation since conception. You hear all the time about if you see something, report it. Schools have the best insight into troubled youths and maybe with conflict resolution boards, policing and parents some of these things can be worked out before it gets out of hand.

 

When I was a director of the CAR (CA association of realtors) we learned a lot about lobbyists. Ever met one of them? What is vital to know is that if Smith lobbies for A, Jones lobbies against A. We need not fear the lobbyist since congress depends on them since the lobbyist is an actual expert. You can't get a job as a lobbyist due to politics, you must be a genuine expert on the topic.

Blaming the NRA is wrong. The anti gun lobby presents their views and as I said, those too are experts.

Yes, the wall money could be used for something else. Such as planting barriers by the border and putting in explosive charges with warnings in spanish. We could shoot on sight and this would be so terrible to the alients, they would quickly lose all notions of crossing the border. We could have fighter jets strafe the people too. Hell I can think of a lot of ways not to have the wall. Trump is humane so the wall is non aggressive. We have spent decades hoping the Mexicans will cease. But they refuse to cease so until we shoot them on tight, we will do the humane thing and put up the wall. Fences do not work. Experts on walls know just what to do to create a barrier. They do it for prisons and those work very well. Armed guards are up high so we can do that on the walls too.

School safety is the province of your locals. They elect school boards. When parents want their children not to die in school, they will hire armed guards to ensure the kids are protected. But posting the school tips off the killers they will die at the school. Locked doors during school hrs is an excellent idea. TV alarms can be installed to make sure the school is not caught by surprise.

 

Ever stop to wonder why prisons do not get attacked?

Armed men are posted on high walls and of course that is a lousy place to attack.

 

It does us all no good that the Media by shoving this down our throats all the time is a clear advertisement to the nuts.

We act almost as if the nuts are fine, but if you put the hit on the gun owners, things will be fine. What is not fine is the media elevates the killers to a state that the nuts see it and figure they want to be famous. This latest school shooter had it on the internet he wanted to be a professional school shooter. This should have been a priority for our authorities at all levels. But the locals know it first.