Miami shooter's father says; "This has nothing to do with religion."

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mir Seddique, Mateen's father told NBC News, "this has nothing to do with religion." Seddique said his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago and thinks that may be related to the shooting.

    "We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren't aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country," Seddique said.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/or...gency-services-respond-reports-gunman-n590446

    My take - There is a chance, all be it a small one, that Omar was a closeted gay and did this act for that reason. It is more likely he was your typical American who then got caught up in radical Islam and decided that since Islam forbids homosexuality and orders death to homosexuals, that the right action was to do this.

    When we free ourselves from the insanity of progressive political correctness, and when we put our country, culture, and safety before that of appeasing the leftists, only then will shine as the great nation we are.

    Right now, America is dying from within. It's time to close the border, end all immigration, and clean house internally ! It's time to either get in line and return to the Traditional America that put man on the moon, or get dragged there kicking and screaming. This progressive utopia fantasy is falling apart, and is taking our country down with it.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what happens when stupid people try to push their insane agenda, and one of the reasons for the attraction to leaders like Trump.

    The video below explains it perfectly

    [video=youtube;yeJ-iv3MOTo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeJ-iv3MOTo[/video]
     
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    Mateen had active security officer and firearm licenses, according to Florida records.Marriage records show he was married in Port St. Lucie in 2009.


    The incident is being investigated as an act of terrorism, officials said.

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    several Muslim groups condemned the attack.

    "We condemn this monstrous attack and offer our heartfelt condolences to the families and loved ones of all those killed or injured. The Muslim community joins our fellow Americans in repudiating anyone or any group that would claim to justify or excuse such an appalling act of violence," the Council on American-Islamic Relations Orlando Regional Coordinator Rasha Mubarak said in a statement.

    Police originally said around 20 people were dead, but Orlando Police Chief John Mina said once authorities were able to get into the club, many more victims were discovered.Mina called the attack "one of the worst tragedies we've seen."
     
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    so i bet trumps going to get every gay lesbian vote in the us now.
     
  5. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This had nothing to do with Islam?

    Let me tell you about this bridge in Brooklyn I can sell to you ...
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Islamist teachings against homosexuality influenced his desire to commit mass murder.

    oh, and by the way, the Christian/Jewish Bible says that homosexuals should be put to death.

    that is a direct quote.
     
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    LOL...there is no "quote" there at all.
     
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    Is that supposed to get them off the hook, mere words? What good is saying this when we all know it will continue to happen?
     
  9. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You won't get any disagreement from me. Christians and Jews who are ok with homosexuality and gay marriage are actually in violation of the Bible's views. They don't care because most Christians and Jews don't really believe in their faith. It's more a cultural thing for them. When it comes to truly walking the walk, it is hard line Muslims who hold that mantle.
     
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    No doubt, Christain extremists will applaud this act as God's justice done by the hand of man.

    The Bible calls for Gays to be put to death, and this happened last night.

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    or they will say something like:

    "its a shame soo many people lost their lives, but the Lord works in mysterious ways"
     
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    I suspect it was Islamist teachings that influenced his desire to commit mass murder of Americans AND different Islamist teachings that motivated his selection of targets.

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    50. The US' largest mass shooting in history.
     
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    Tend to hear those comments from the news quite often too now, as a regular thing.
     
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    The old testament called for death for adulterers and homosexuals. Christians have the new testament.

    John 8:1-11)

    A Woman Caught in Adultery
    8 Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, 2 but early the next morning he was back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and taught them. 3 As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery. They put her in front of the crowd.
    4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
    6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
    9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
    11 “No, Lord,” she said.
    And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”

    Romans 14:13
    "For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."
     
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    OLD Testament of the Bible NOT the NEW Testament. The old was pre-Jesus Christ and is not the guiding principles of Christianity.
     
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    Most Christains revere the Old Testament moral codes.

    but not the personal behavior regulations, such as for keeping Kosher.
     
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    Yeah, the rush of Islamic groups condemning the attack is usually a pretty good indication that the attack was motivated by Islam.
     
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    Isn't that from the Old Testament written by Jews who were yet to meet Jesus?
     
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    Really, and you know this how?
     
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    Maybe we should edit out these parts of the Bible.

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    The Ten Commandments aren't revered by Christians?

    really? LOL!!!!
     
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    dont think so most of what percentage? i say maybe 33.3% believe in the old testament way your stretching it again for your .anti :gun:agenda
     
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    Yup, but they do try hard to defend the image in the eyes of ignorant Progressives.
     
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    most Christains believe the Ten Commandments are God's law.
     
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    still not using percentages only emotionall over tones?:wink:
     
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    And you know this how??
     
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    Correct, but there's some nut on this board saying the Bible mandates Christians to slaughter all gays. Does anyone know what part of the Bible requires Christians to kill?
     

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