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Miami shooter's father says; "This has nothing to do with religion."

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    During the killing, the murderer was shouting "Allah Akbar!".

    But this has nothing to do with religion. He was a right wing, homophobe, gun nut. Probably KKK.
     
    Texas Republican, Jun 12, 2016
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  2. Papastox

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    What lies?
     
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  3. MrNick

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    Exactly what I thought - ISIS...

    Yea but we need to let more in because most Muslims are good?

    Perhaps this terrorist attack will open up the progressives eyes because apparently 9/11 and all the other attacks weren't enough for some to realize there is a Sharia fundamental conservative Islamic movement that wants people dead for not following "Gods Law"....
     
    MrNick, Jun 12, 2016
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  4. Margot2

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    I didn't intend to repeat myself.

    The Koran doesn't teach that gays should be killed.. There's no death penalty for gays.

    There is a teaching about the people of Lut (Sodom and Gomorrah) who worshipped sex.. and Ishtar... and that is condemned.

    ISIS is very effed up... Ramadan is a sacred month for Muslims.. not a month for war or acts of terrorism.
     
    Margot2, Jun 12, 2016
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  5. Papastox

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    This is NOT about Christians. This is about MUSLIMS and what THEY believe according to the Koran.
     
    Papastox, Jun 12, 2016
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    The family was from Afghanistan so not he was not a typical American.
     
    Deckel, Jun 12, 2016
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    The only people that will applaud this Ronnie are your Muslim buddies. Face the facts.
     
    therooster, Jun 12, 2016
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    I thought Only the blameless should cast "stones", not Original Sinners.
     
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    Most punishments under shariah law come from the Hadiths, not the koran.
     
    dixon76710, Jun 12, 2016
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    Lightly violent is the most that should happen when women are involved.
     
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    Well, you know how little support there is for the hadiths. In KSA there is no death penalty for homosexuality.
     
    Margot2, Jun 12, 2016
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    They irrationally hate non-progressives. They don't pay attention to reality, their irrational hate of non-progressives TRUMPS (no pun intended of course) their vigilance....

    It's weird.

    If the media could ignore this terrorist attack and bury it they would..... They're out there calling Trump a racist claiming Muslims do nothing wrong and terrorism is a myth and this Muslim murders 50 gays and wounds 50 others....

    Had this dude been Christian it would be a different story but since he's Muslim well.....

    This is interesting because now a Muslim killed a bunch of gays - progressives must be conflicted right now.
     
    MrNick, Jun 12, 2016
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    AND.....a registered Democrat.
     
    Professor Peabody, Jun 12, 2016
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    No, Muhammad focused on the condemnation of homosexuality, approvingly.

    007.081
    YUSUFALI: "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."
    PICKTHAL: Lo! ye come with lust unto men instead of women. Nay, but ye are wanton folk.
    SHAKIR: Most surely you come to males in lust besides females; nay you are an extravagant people.
     
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    Are you sure????
    Report: Saudi authorities seek death penalty for coming out
     
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    They do come from the Koran (or any way you want to spell it).... These nut jobs take the word of the Koran as the literal word from God...

    There is a difference between Christians and Muslims and that difference is Christians believe in letting GOD judge and Muslims believe in carrying out the word of Muhammad/God here on Earth.
     
    MrNick, Jun 12, 2016
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    It's bigotry. We might as well have some white supremacist on here posting about how this night club attack is all black people's fault.
     
    AtsamattaU, Jun 12, 2016
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    And yet we do not.. So instead if discussing the topic you want to deflect... Surprise surprise.
     
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  20. MrNick

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    Look, these Muslims do this (*)(*)(*)(*) because they believe it's their duty to do it.

    Of course if there is a Fatwa they feel they have to do it and so called "civil" Muslims don't care. Of course they will say "oh this is terrible" well when they say that they mean "It was terrible they were gay hence they were murdered"....

    I suppose my point is that Muslims find it their religious duty to carry out attacks like this. Some may not have the balls to do it but they know there is someone out there that does so they're satisfied with that.
     
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  21. Robert

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    Not sure of your point. You said Mateen pledged his victory to ISIS, not I.

    Wasn't it common in Iraq for Saddam's government to execute homosexuals?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/saudi-arabia-pushes-homosexuals-executed-7672283

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-public-homosexual-including-boy-aged-15.html
     
    Robert, Jun 12, 2016
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    It's bigotry - and Islamic nut just killed 50 people. You think it ends with gays? they want all of us dead or converted to radical Islam...

    Also, you better believe there have been more attacks by ISIS since this tragedy around the world - this one just happened on US soil so the media can't ignore it.....
     
    MrNick, Jun 12, 2016
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    They simply rely upon different hadiths calling for different punishment for homosexuality. AND there has been calls in Saudi to instead follow a different hadith

    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.
    Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4462
     
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    Several other Muslim groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda support such attacks, so these so-called other Muslims that condemn such attacks really need to refocus their message...
     
    Dispondent, Jun 12, 2016
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