New Orleans to remove 4 Confederate statues

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Guno, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    48
    How about a guy with his hands up and a plaque saying dont shoot black lives matter?
     
  2. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    23,945
    Likes Received:
    3,357
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    true lots of women rights did come out of that civil war after a LOT the good Alpha males where slaughter on the battlefields
    [​IMG], viva feminist leagues rose out of that ashes, wonder full right?
    and we know women played a key role in freeing the slaves and as a result putting them on welfare a 100 years later..cause and effect
    http://www.anb.org/cush_rights.html
     
  3. ellesdee

    ellesdee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2004
    Messages:
    4,706
    Likes Received:
    1,009
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hate women, too.
     
  4. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    23,945
    Likes Received:
    3,357
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    why would Your emotions come into play by yah? and why add me intoo your emotions?
     
    ellesdee likes this.
  5. 10A

    10A Chief Deplorable Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    5,698
    Likes Received:
    1,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He did refuse. He was totally for the North. Then he was ordered to kill his brothers, sisters, and neighbors. You ok with killing your neighbors? I'm guessing not, but don't bash Lee for making the same choice you would. Unless you really want to kill your neighbors?
     
    Wehrwolfen likes this.
  6. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There were over 100,000 Southern Unionists that made the decision to serve in the Union Army -- they weren't forced, they decided to not become confederates and engage in treason against the UNITED States.

    These Southern Unionists came from every southern state - and every one, except South Carolina, raised at least one battalion.
     
    Wehrwolfen likes this.
  7. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Well there were over 350000 northerners who had moved to the south just prior to the war so its no big surprise. After the war they were refereed to as scalawags
     
  8. Teilhard

    Teilhard New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    2,509
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Huh … Interesting *take* …

    Anyway, Lee was a loser who spilled blood and lives for the sake of illegal secession and the preservation and extension of slavery …
    He was as bad as any Nazi ...
     
  9. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113
    lol. No. 350,000 northerners didn't move south "just prior to the war."

    The northerns who went down down during the war and during the time of reconstruction were the ones called scalawags by defeated confederates (aka: "worthless person") - these folks headed south because they saw profit, and quite a few were there to work on behalf of the newly freed slaves.
     
  10. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113

    This writer agrees with you ...

    "It doesn’t seem to matter that Lee, who turned down an offer by Lincoln to command the Union army before the actual shooting started, was by definition a traitor and a terrorist. Indeed, he is responsible for more American deaths than any foreign or domestic enemy in our entire collective past, including Adolf Hitler and Osama bin Laden combined.

    A little too harsh an assessment, do you think? Not really when all the relevant facts are examined.

    Despite having sworn an oath of allegiance to defend our nation and Constitution against all threats, Lee unceremoniously decided to resign his commission from the U.S. Army in 1861. He then proceeded to take up arms with the Confederacy, a loose collection of rebellious Southern states who were committed to preserving the enslavement of millions of African-Americans."

    http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2015/04/24/thomas-j-whalen-on-robert-e-lee
     
  11. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    48

    Not according to the census . Most of them fought for the south anyway
    - - - Updated - - -

    There is nothing in the constitution saying session is illegal meaning it is legal. The north had no right to take back the southern states
     
  12. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Resided. Some had lived three for decades before the war.

    That does not say what you claimed.

    THINK!

    Say it a million times. It won't matter. The question was answered by the war, and many other factors.

    You lost. Too bad, So sad. .
     
  13. Teilhard

    Teilhard New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    2,509
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Facts of history …

    - - - Updated - - -

    Article III, section 110 … "treason … taking up arms against the United States …"

    see: Fort Sumter ...
     
  14. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The war officially started on April 12.

    The south started committing treason and Acts of War in December of 1860, by seizing forts and in the just the first week of January '61, had commenced blasting cannons on US property...along with scooping up --I mean stealing - federal buildings and ships in the South.

    Some states even before they seceded.
     
  15. Teilhard

    Teilhard New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    2,509
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I do find it interesting -- and disturbing -- that more than a century after the horrors of the Civil War, there are still some who apparently consider it glorious and the Southern Cause righteous and worth celebrating …
    *shudder*
     
  16. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113

    And for a "country" whose goal was continued preservation and expansion of ownership of black human beings, the stated purpose White Supremacy.
     
  17. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    48
    3 decades is not long

    I lost? My great great grand dad was US Grant and Im from NY. I guess to you might makes right

    - - - Updated - - -

    There is nothing glorious about war and death
     
  18. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Nonsense . It was the north who went against the constitution by trying to destroy that which was approved under the constitution.
     
  19. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    And, the South should have "harassed the Judicature" about it.
     
  20. Paperview

    Paperview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    2,735
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The word is there. Lived there. Not three. That was a typo.

    "Resided. Some had lived three for decades before the war."

    Many had lived there much of their lives. All we know is they were born in the north, and moved south. Your statement "there were over 350000 northerners who had moved to the south just prior to the war" is ridiculous.

    You are so confused. You say "most of these folks fought for the Confederacy" in one post, and in another -- you call those same folks scalawags.

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2015
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    48
    You mean like Dred Scott ?
     
  22. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    23,945
    Likes Received:
    3,357
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    because it was a last stand by the south, before the NWO northern industrial program everyone is equal commie like mindset, that Lincoln and the bankers had dreamed up that was a civil war in the making face off of the Souths agriculture culture, of a slower traditional classy type, thus leading to a ultimate destruction of the usa's foundation started to go in effect.
     
  23. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is it nazi-like to end the worshiping of slavery / glorifying white supremacy in the open for the white community who lost the war ages ago? It's more the other way around, that your kind of glorifying white supremacy is nazi-like.
     
  24. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,246
    Likes Received:
    20,034
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No what is lame, anyone thinking she is looked scared and running.
     
  25. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    23,945
    Likes Received:
    3,357
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    your acting as if the whole civil war was base of slavery issue as we all know here it was more then that, like trade restrictions put on the south and lots of new taxe$ the north wanted the south to pay for there cotton and crops.
     

Share This Page