New York prosecutor hires forensic accountants as criminal investigation into Trump Organization esc

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  1. Curious Yellow

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    It's not political persecution just because Trump is now a politician. Trump is the architect of his destiny. Anyone who was familiar with him before his foray into and through the White House knew it. I don't understand why you guys are all so up in arms. He's spent his life using money to keep the law at arm's distance. You guys have made him your poster child.
     
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    Cheney and Bush are way worse than Trump, but my thoughts regarding all three are possibly best ambiguously conveyed by this video clip.

     
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    What's the probable cause Trump committed a crime in his real estate deals? You do know we are constitutionally protect from such investigations unless the prosecutor has a probable cause.

    "reportedly retained a forensic accounting firm called FTI Consulting to examine the president’s finances, particularly any anomalies in his property deals."

    So what if federal prosecutors showed up at you door and said let us in and onto your computer so we can see if there are any "anomalies" in any of your financial dealings. Without any probable cause. What woudl be your position then?
     
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    This is one of the most backwards posts I’ve seen on this forum.

    Investigation or prosecution of a politician is not the same thing as a politically motivated investigation / prosecution. This appears to be a legitimate investigation that you would nullify for political reasons.

    The people who care about and love America are the people who respect the result of elections, not people like trump and those of his supporters who are trying to ignore election results and have him stay in power. That would be a coup and contrary to fundamental American values.
     
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    Odd.

    I thought Biden won the election, not Biden's son.

    I guess I don't understand the Constitution.
     
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    Please provide links to where you CONDEMNED all of the Republican Benghazi and Email hearings since they MEET your definition of political prosecution, corruption, overstepping and hatred.
     
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    democrats hate him.
     
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    I think this is a true sign of desperation amongst the politically motivated prosecutors. They've been going after Trump for years and got nothing, he's weathered such investigation before and come through.
     
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    Err, what was that exactly?
     
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    True, though he's lost many civil cases. They may just get Trump like they got Al Capone.
     
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    Campaign finance violations. The payoffs to Stormy and the other one. Evidence for this has already been provided by Cohen.

    Possible tax and bank fraud.
     
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    When they do this, think about it. They are spending good money for this firm, they are not cheap, so they must be pretty sure they have a case and are closing in. What it means is that there is going to be an indictment.

    I don't 'think' I KNOW Vance is going to indict Trump.

    I hope they put this criminal behind bars, where he belongs, and let that be a message to any future Trump that....

    1. You can't commit financial crimes, and because you are rich, you think you are above the law.

    2. Financial crimes are real crimes, crimes against the United States, you know, 'We The People...."


    But, since you are a rich boy, and the former president, you'll probably get off with a fine, which you will be able to pay, a plight which I think is wrong, but it's probably what is going to happen. If it turns out to be a fine, I hope it's a big fat one, one about to the tune of the $400 million taxes he evaded paying, one that will really sting.

    Now then, Mr Trump. There is a slight chance you won't be indicted, per the advice of the accounting firm, but, let me guess, you are going to pardon yourself. But, here's the thing, IF you do that, SDNY WILL DEFINETLY indict you, JUST to challenge that pardon, because SDNY will not let you try and get away with that one.


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    And Baa Baa Barr's handpicked prosecutor found exactly dick.
     
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    Maybe not the loser himself, that is going to be an up hill push to charge a former President, no matter how guilty he is.
    However, I think the rest of the crime family is certainly in line for an indictment and lets hope a very public trial.
    I think the best we can hope for is yet another bankrupting of the trump crime family.
     
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    Or, you know, the rule of law.
     
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    "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"
    "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"
    "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!"
     
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    You may have missed Cohen's testimony to Congress.
     
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    The, wait for it...'sworn testimony' of his attorney, Mike Cohen, is more than enough 'probable cause' to start several investigations in several states.
     
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    Stormy.
     
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    Well, that's a start. However, probable cause has a specific definition and application.

    Probable cause: reasonable grounds (for making a search, pressing a charge, etc.).

    Investigations start with suspicion(s) not probable cause.


    As for the hypocrisy crack, your partisan defense of Dirty Donnie opens you up to being labeled a hypocrite.
    Nothing personal and not an attack: a description of your posts.

    As for reporting it, no problem whatsoever. Just be sure to include both sides of your complaint or you risk being....... you know....
     
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    Doesnt even relate to the discussion. Demanding personal records with the intent of finding or insinuating or concocting charges which is what is happening with trump is not the same thing as looking into criminal acts that actually occurred and after they occurred.
     
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    And before citizens are to be subject to subpoena's and investigations into our private matters there should be probable cause, what is it here? The prosecutor admits they are on a fishing expedition trying to FIND "anomalies". And no the hypocracy is in the defense of Joe Biden and claims it should all be ignored.
     
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    So if the police come knocking on your door and demand to see all your financial records and they have no probable cause to do so you are just going to let them in? What did Cohen give that is probable cause to investigate? That was over a year ago and at the time the phony reporting that he was cooperating was debunked. Cohen's legal problems had to do with HIS acts not Trumps.
     
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    Nothing illegal.
     
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    Which went nowhere. By the prosecutors own admission they are on a fishing trying trying to find something.
     

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