New York prosecutor hires forensic accountants as criminal investigation into Trump Organization esc

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Now you just posting baseless GIBBERISH!

    I dare you to PROVE those were the only reasons why Cohen was imprisoned.

    FAILURE to prove your position will HARM your credibility.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The SENTENCING MEMORANDUM proves that Cohen was REIMBURSED for paying the hush money from Campaign Funds.

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5453395/USDOJ-Cohen-20181207.pdf

     
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    It doesn't, why was Clinton prosecuted? Why do hate him? What is wrong with you? Why do you think he's a criminal? Yes and Hilary wasn't locked either despite all the illegal acts she committed, so why are you okay with that but want to throw Trump in gaol because you dislike his politics?
     
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    Because that's what the indictments were?
     
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    Yes but that actually proves my point, it was Cohen who falsely accounted for these payments and didn't just charge the Trump campaign for the hush money (note it says 'including' the $130,000), we also had his bonus and technical services and then rounding it up for tax purposes (I love THAT, insisting on paying him more because it means they would eventually pay less in tax! No wonder juries get lost in such labyrinthine cases). They write them off as retainer expenses and pay them in instalments for the same reasons, Cohen providing negligible legal services during 2017 but on retainer and there if they want him (you don't actually have to have a written agreement, it can be informal).
     
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    Clinton was prosecuted for PERJURY regarding a blowjob!

    I have provided FACTUAL EVIDENCE that YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief has committed at least one CRIME!

    I already DEBUNKED your puerile ad homs and RECOMMEND that you REFRAIN from using them in future BEFORE you find yourself having to EXPLAIN why you are INCAPABLE of dealing with the CONTENT of the posts.

    Hillary did NOT commit any "illegal acts". What she did was NOT a crime because the LAW required that they must PROVE that there was INTENT on her part. There was ZERO evidence of any intent ergo there was no crime.

    FACTS matter!

    YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief IS a criminal who DESERVES to PAY for his CRIMES.

    The EVIDENCE is IRREFUTABLE.
     
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    Thank you for DOWNGRADING your own credibility by FAILING to substantiate your BOGUS allegations.

    :roflol:
     
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    Try reading the part where YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief CONSPIRED with Cohen to commit those Campaign Finance Violations.
     
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    No you haven't, just supposition and wishful thinking on your part. Clinton committed perjury, obstruction of justice and tax offences. He admitted this and is universally known to be guilty, these are clear cut crimes. What crime is Trump guilty off? Hillary did commit offences re her computer, obstruction of justice if nothing else but mind-blowingly the FBI decided it was simply not in the public interest to pursue? Yes, you mean the legal principle of mens rea, correct in her usage, that could just be put down to criminal negligence but it's the cover up which is possibly the bigger issue.
     
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    Anyone who mentions Trump and honor within 1000 words of each other has a very strange idea of what honor is.
     
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    Old legal saying, if the facts are on your side argue the facts, if the law is on your side argue the law, if neither are on your side shout and pound the table and if that doesn't work desperately resort to emojis.

    Yes, there are bogus allegations, trying to define hush money to Trumps mistresses as campaign finance violations is twisting the law more than a corkscrew.
     
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    Says who? Convicted perjurer Michael Cohen who wanted to cut a deal to keep himself out of gaol? Again, if it was straightforward like the Edwards case it would be different but Trump was smart enough to have a cut out with Cohen, unfortunately for Trump Cohen then gets busted for other stuff.
     
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    You'll note that the only one where he would be even a little safe is Vanuatu, and that should be underwater fairly soon due mainly to Trump's climate policies.
     
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    Anyone who spells honour without a U is someone I have grave doubts about! (why do Americans seem to want to abolish that letter?)
     
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    Stop talking about Trump that way. He's innocent until we find him guilty.
     
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    Maybe Trump can build his own country? He could call it Maga?
     
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    Yeah, some people seem to want to skip that step? Ironically the same ones who were outraged by the Hillary "Lock her up" chants.
     
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    :roflol:

    Thank you for ESTABLISHING beyond any doubt whatsoever that you are NOT acquainted with the FACTUAL REALITY of what has transpired.

    Furthermore it is POINTLESS to expect you to provide CREDIBLE substantiation for the bovine excrement allegations in the content above since you have already DEMONSTRATED that you cannot.
     
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    :roflol:

    It is YOU that is pounding the table because you have PROVEN that you are incapable of providing a single shred of CREDIBLE substantiation for ALL of YOUR bogus allegations.
     
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    Obviously you have NOT bothered to actually READ the link to the GOVERNMENT MEMORANDUM.

    Because THAT would ANSWER your asinine question.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    1. Remember what I said about emojis?
    2. So you're running away?
     
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    I did and that's what it said.
     
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    But I'm not making the allegations, I'm pointing out the flaws in yours.
     
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    If they get Trump for taxes, there will be that.
     
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    He's fought them off on that before and even then it would probably just be a fine, like Clinton.
     

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