New York prosecutor hires forensic accountants as criminal investigation into Trump Organization esc

Thank you for DISQUALIFYING yourself from any further meaningful interaction on this topic by your ONGOING FAILURE to provide any CREDIBLE substantiation for your bovine excrement allegations.

Have a nice day!

 

You'll have to trust me on this.
But when your personal attorney stands up in court and puts the finger on you, prosecutors think it's probable cause.

 

I think the allegation - made by Cohen under oath, it that if you look at both the taxes and the applications for bank loans on the same property, they won't match.
That would make him guilty of either tax evasion or bank fraud. Take your choice.

 

Okay. My argument was they might get Trump the same way they got Capone. I addressed your previous deflection and though I appreciate this one, my point stands.

 

No finger put remember. The Daniels NDA was NOT illegal. What don't you understand about Vance announcing they are on a fishing expedition because they apparently don't have anything.

 

No, they don't match, and never will.

If a bank is using real estate as a basis of a loan or collateral for the same, they will have it appraised.

That will virtually never equal what one declares it for tax purposes. If there are improvements, they can depreciate, causing the overall to be reduced in value. If there are no improvements, economic conditions or environmental impacts can change the value of the land, separate from an appraisal for asset/collateral.

 

Deutsche Bank gave Donald Trump financial records to New York prosecutors – report | Deutsche Bank | The Guardian

 

^^^^^^

 

Nope, the NDA was not an illegal act.

 

They were personal funds which is legal. No campaign donation monies were used.

 

Then he will get a chance to prove it in court.

 

And? Vance stated in his announce they would be searching for "anomalies", that's a fishing expedition.

 

Call it what you will, but Trump's personal attorney put them up to it.

 

That's the phase it's in. Call it what you will. Nothing unusual about it

 

It's his direct statement, not a "and we are investigating this deal or that deal specifically", just going through to see what they can find.

 

What are you calling that was a crime or even probable cause of a crime? The Daniels NDA was not a crime, PERIOD. Not on Trumps part. Cohen got in trouble because of how HE handled it on his own. The documents from Deutsche Bank. Those are loan applications what's the crime there? His valuation? It's up to Deutsche Bank to do their own appraisal of any collateral. Got get a mortgage and see if the bank just accepts YOUR appraisal of the property or they tell you what they do and how much they will loan you. And I doubt Trump was working at his desk at night with the accounts hat on running the numbers. The accountants do that and if they certified the applications as I am sure Deutsche Bank would require the onus is on them for the accuracy.

Has Deutsche Bank filed a civil lawsuit against Trump Inc or the attorney's or accounts? Have they claimed they were defrauded or something?

So this has been going on for two years now and Vance NOW hires some forensic accountants? And he does so to see if they can find any "anomalies" in any records? REALLY?

 

They have Cohen’s sworn evidence in relation to declaring different values fir buildings. That’s probable cause. Now they’re looking for documents to confirm that evidence.

As for the Daniels payment, you seem to acknowledge that what Cohen did was a crime. He is, after all, serving time for it. If trump instructed him or agreed with him to commit a crime, that’s conspiracy.

There is definitely probable cause. You’re embarrassing yourself by arguing otherwise.

 

Yes, that's what they do. It's normal for investigations to look for all crimes.

 

Not without probable cause. They can't just get your records without basis to see if they can find "anomalies". I guess you don't mind if they listen in on your phone calls and read your emails just to see if they can find some "anomalies" do you?

 

Huge buildings and real estate deals and companies can be valued on very different basis depending on what the valuation is and what both parties agree to. My valuation for property taxes is different from what I would present to the bank or it use. When I went through a divorce my ex had one number I had another, which of us was committing a crime? And it's up to the bank to do their own and then negotiate. Did the bank file a lawsuit claiming they were defrauded? I don't think so.

Yes how HE personally handled and reported it got HIM in trouble but that was just a small part of it, he also got in hot water over the taxi medallion deals and other real estate deals. Trump telling him to take care of the Daniels NDA was not a crime. He had every expectation this lawyer would properly handle it. The NDA is NOT illegal.

And all of that was settled months and months ago, what does it have to do with Deutsche Bank and a new forensic investigation?

 

You are ignoring the specific instances where probable cause applies.

First, “they” can get your records with the cooperation of anyone who may disclose them
Second, if records were obtained by subpoena, that means a judge agreed there was probable cause.

Good luck to Vance and James finding all the “anomalies” they can. I sincerely hope they use them to build a case and prosecute Dirty Donnie to the fullest extent of the law.

 

FYI, when Trump poured concrete for his casinos, he most definitely dealt with the mob !!!!

 

What tax issues did Clinton have. As for obstruction, Trump is the farthest from innocent !!!!

Your dimissal of Trump's digressions is a joke !!!!

 

Asinine STRAWMAN ignored for obvious reasons.

 

Then WHY did Cohen NOT use that as his DEFENSE against that criminal charge but instead PLEADED GUILTY?