Obama:If you’ve got a business ,you didn’t build that.

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  1. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

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    Alright I've watched the video and she basically said the same thing Obama did.
     
  2. Taxcutter

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    Roads and bridges didn't build the business.

    If some people want to "give back" withtheir own money, that's OK. But when they send the guys with guns to steal my money, I have an objection.
     
  3. webrockk

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    Vacuousness is generally not something one strives to reveal...It appears some can't help themselves.
     
  4. Craftsman

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    Man, having an conversation with extremists is taxing.:roll:

    Let me attempt to explain things a bit,
    Your EPA guy is a low level clown from Texas, he doesn't set national EPA policy, got it?
    He said something stupid and he paid for it.
    The rightists took what he said and blew it out of proportion, like they always do with their media (proving my original point).
    You calling a newspaper someone 'bible' says more about you than you know.
    No one ever said youtube was 'rightwing', other than you.

    My comment about not losing a business stands true.

    I know you will ignore the facts and go to the extreme but at least I tried.
     
  5. Craftsman

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    And where would the business be without the roads and bridges?
    Taxes are not theft.
     
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    The king of irony.
     
  7. Badmutha

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    So it isnt so much that Obama's words were taken out of context.........as this is what Liberal Bureaucrats believe.

    Big Liberal Nanny Statist Government is what makes EVERYTHING possible.....from the sun rising to the creation of businesses....

    ........so we need to Tax The Hell Out of Success......and Reward Failure......for only then can The Liberal Utopia/Open Sewer be realized.
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    You tried so hard, I almost feel sorry.
     
  9. Craftsman

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    Extremism never works dude.
     
  10. Longshot

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    Where would businesses be without computers, steel, lumber, or any other good? Nobody is an island, and we all benefit from the efforts of those around us. So what?

    How does one go from this common sense observation to advocating taking the property of others?
     
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    Yeah, he tends to 'mispeak' alot. I guess that is as good of an excuse as any.
     
  12. Badmutha

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    You should try talking with people living in (D)enial......who believe in a complete lie and utter fraud......you would appreciate how easy you have it.

    He wasnt writing US Policy......he was describing it.....

    "I guess your second question in terms of man power, I am limited in terms of the number of enforcement staff I got, I got about 150 people doing enforcement, I got 5 States so we’re limited in terms of where we can go and what we can do But as I said, oil and gas is an enforcement priority, it’s one of seven, so we are going to spend a fair amount of time looking at oil and gas production. And I gave, I was in a meeting once and I gave an analogy to my staff about my philosophy of enforcement..... It was kind of like how the Romans used to (you know) conquer little villages in the Mediterranean. They’d go into a little Turkish town somewhere, they’d find the first five guys they saw and they would crucify them. And then you know that town was really easy to manage for the next few years."

    EPA Regs to Close 10 Coal Plants in Michigan

    ........Crucify Them......Kill the rest.....

    Welcome to ObamAmerica--More Anti-Business than Communist China.......
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  13. RedWolf

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    No, it was still taken out of context. It's not just government alone that helps us succeed, but our loved ones and everyone else who played a part down to the janitor.

    When I worked at a grocery store I knew that everyone had an important position, evdn if it wasn't glorious. As a whole we kept that store running. Now imagine that the stock crew are construction workers, the deli meat department anf frozen food are small business that supply your inventory, cashiers are loved ones,and the store is a city. Everything runs in conjunction with eachother whether you like it to or not. You can't have a business without those things. That's what they were saying. You don't have to like either of them but at least be honest in what they're saying.
     
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    Barack Obama is a straight up Marxist.

    This is outrageous and against EVERYTHING that America was built on in principle.

    He understand NOTHING about the hard work, RISK, and intelligence it takes to be a successful business owner. NEWSFLASH: All those roads, bridges, and infrastructure he refers to was built..... WITH OUT TAX DOLLARS which is predominantly paid for by THE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS OWNERS.

    Barack Obama is unfit to lead. He lacks the knowledge to understand what makes a country and business successful.
     
  15. Badmutha

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    You believe Government helps businesses succeed?

    Because as I recall.....particualary when working into the wee hours of the night.....neither Obama, Warren, or the "Helping Hand" of government were anywhere to be found.

    But when the profits finally started rolling in......there they were........ready and eager to help lighten my wallet.
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    "My name is Debbie Wasserman Schultz and I am a flaming liberal. And as a flaming liberal and a dedicated Democratic socialist I must tell you the money in your savings and checking accounts does not actually belong to you. Instead, your money, the money you have worked so hard for, collectively, belongs to the federal government!...This is why I support increasing our income tax rate to 70 percent like it was in the good old days before the Republicans were in charge of tax policy!” ... Here is another very liberal Democrat a lot of people would like to slap some common sense into!
     
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    In Progressive Leftieville, individual risks are yours and yours alone.....
    any fruits harvested from your risks, however....
    fall under the purview of coercive, yet 'benevolent' redistributors.
     
  18. James Cessna

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    You are correct, webrockk.

    In Barack Obama's socialist mind, "If you own a business and you lose money, the loss is yours. If you make money, the profits are mine!"


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    Barack Obama is unfit to lead. He lacks the knowledge to understand what makes a country and business successful.
     
  19. RedWolf

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    That's nice. Now why don't you show me where he's lying or factually incorrect because as much as I dislike Obama politically I can't find anything faulty with what he said.
     
  20. James Cessna

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    He is factually incorrect.

    During past recessions, the Democrats have told us a sure fire way to get the economy moving forward again is for the government to create demand and jobs in the private sector by pumping money into the U.S. economic system.

    Consequently, Barack Obama’s first major legislative initiative was the so-called stimulus, which increased future federal spending by nearly a trillion dollars, the most expensive legislation in history up till that time. We know now, as thinking people have known for some time, that this record-shattering spending bill only stimulated government spending, deficits and more and more government debt.

    "Contrary to official Democrat Keynesian witchcraft, you don’t promote economic recovery, growth and prosperity by borrowing a trillion dollars out of the economy to spend a trillion dollars back into it." This policy, as proposed by the Democrats is like taking water from one end of the swimming pool (the economy) and pouring it into the other end to raise the water level of the pool. Simple physics and practical economics tells us this policy as proposed by Paul Krugman does not work!

    The Democrats have done this now for four years now and have used $ 5.5 trillion in new money to stimulate our economy. But the U.S. labor participation rates are worse now than when Barack Obama assumed office and proudly promised us "hope and change". He also conficently told us if he could not fix the U.S. economy, he did not deserve a second term.
     
  21. Badmutha

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    Obama never ran so much as a lemonade stand much less a candy store.....

    There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.


    ....if you dont see the fault.....then Im going to guess you probably havent either.
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  22. jcarlilesiu

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    Its more collectivist non-sense. The left has to diminish individual achievements and downplay the role the individual had in their success, in an effort to tell them that they OWE something to the collective.

    Its simply setting the stage for wealth redistribution and other "collectivist" programs that government assumes through more regulation, oversight, and programs to attempt to equalize individual outcomes.

    The left once again fails to see that their envy and jealousy encourages failure. What a pathetic group of people.

    Yes, my teachers helped me learn. But that is because they individually chased their dream to help other people and individually took on the task to earn a paycheck. Does that mean that I owe them some of my wealth when I use WHAT I ALREADY PAID THEM FOR to earn me more money? No.

    Basically, this type of illogical non-sense sets the stage for the "as long as everybody is contributing the collective, they should all be equally reciprocal of the outcome".

    Left wing mediocrity at its worst.
     
  23. Craftsman

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    So a company like FEDEX should pay the same amount as you?
    I've started 2 successful business's.
    You've 'noted' something that exists only in your own mind.
     
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    Simply not true and I think you know it.
     
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    Yes, because business keeps it's customers by ripping them off. Peddle stupidity else where.
     

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