Obama:If you’ve got a business ,you didn’t build that.

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  1. Goodoledays

    Goodoledays New Member

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    And what its coming to is the owner really isn't the owner. The gov't is the true owner. The original owner is just the one running it for the gov't. Thats what this country is heading for.
     
  2. Craftsman

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    Right, your perseption, fed by the scare tactics of your media, not with standing, that is a stupid comment.

    But conservative 'bureacrates' are helping, you know if you can find them?
     
  3. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? How many business do you know of that were successful without consumers? If you wanna sell something, people have to be willing to buy it for the transaction to work.
     
  4. Craftsman

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    I sure wish that made sense.
     
  5. Craftsman

    Craftsman Banned

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    Spoken like a man that has never owned a business.
     
  6. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Pure road apples! Have you ever been to California? Or even heard of California?
    Businesses have been leaving the state in record numbers because the state has taxed and regulated them out of existence (as far as California is concerned).
    The cost of business can be too great and you can only pass on so many charges to the consumer before the consumer gets tired of rising costs and goes elsewhere.
    That is irrefutable fact and the sorry state of business in California is proof! http://www.ocregister.com/articles/moved-342887-companies-texas.html
     
  7. Craftsman

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    Terrible analogy, but it does say a great deal about you and how you view the world.

    Regulations are in place for the most part for very good reasons, you know that, everyone knows that. As a business owner you plan for them, you plan for the cost, you plan for the long term impact.
    It's not that big of deal. And it really isn't the big scary Govt. getting in your way, it's just reality. If you can't deal with it then go home.
    Whining and crying solves nothing.
    Put your big boy pants on and deal with it.
     
  8. Goodoledays

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    Just three businesses in three different states. Your the one that sounds like you don't really know what business is about.
     
  9. Craftsman

    Craftsman Banned

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    Yeah, sure, OK.
     
  10. Craftsman

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    You don't know that anymore than I do. The reasons a company moves are many and varied, to make your comment is to show your lack of understanding.
    There's your 'road apples'.
    Did you even read the article you linked to?
     
  11. Badmutha

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    No fed by Reality.....of which there are endless examples.......

    [video=youtube;ze3GB_b7Nuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze3GB_b7Nuo[/video]

    ....from a limited government that used to welcome business w/jobs........to a statist liberal government that looks to crucify them.

    Republican Bureaucrats help the best way a bureaucrat can help......by getting the hell out of the way.
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  12. Craftsman

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    Thanks for proving my point better than anyone ever could!
    Youtube???!!! LOL!!
     
  13. Yosh Shmenge

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    Do you understand that this is an EPA official in his own words, right?

    Only an absolute dunce sits in a courtroom and says, "LOL. Testimony? Thanks for making my point better than anyone ever could."
     
  14. hiimjered

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    Not all regulations are for good reason or serve a good purpose.

    Why should a child have to get a $300 permit from the city to open a lemonade stand in his front yard? Why should a woman have to get a certificate from a cosmetics training program and serve an internship just to get a business license to braid hair? Why should a computer repair technician have to get a private investigator's license - (which requires a specific degree or a three-year internship)? Why should a business have to get a special license to go out of business?

    There are plenty of other such crazy regulations on businesses out there. Many are just designed to make it difficult or expensive for new businesses to start - they are designed to protect the existing businesses. A new business can and will plan for them, but in no way are they beneficial or necessary.
     
  15. Badmutha

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    For you to walk through the front doors and buy something off the shelves.....and to decry at that point that YOU were the reason the business was successful....

    .....is to ignore the years of sacrifice, pain, sweat, and blood that came prior. None of which.....was yours....
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    I never said the consumer was the be-all-end-all. I was trying to decry that kind of thinking but in terms of the business owner being the be-all-end-all. I'm saying that it is a symbiotic relationship, in that without one, you can't have the other.
     
  17. Craftsman

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    You rightists will swallow just about anything won't you?
     
  18. Badmutha

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    Is video of the horse's mouth not worthy?

    Do we need to send Al The Crucifier Armendariz to your front door?
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  19. Right is right

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    Exactly... Sort of. Its the chefs job to use HIS resources (including public roads etc that he helped pay for through his taxes at the rate required by the government) to put together a product that people want. Neither you, Obama or any of your fellow leeches are in his kitchen helping hime do this.

    You "things" (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and moan about hard working people paying their "fair share" and Claim that they didnt accomplish anything on their own and in the next breath sob for some (*)(*)(*)(*)ing losers who sit on their asses and do nothing but take and take and take. You want to talk not accomplishing anything on your own. How about we talk about the people who never even try to accomplish anything at all but are the first with their hands out for (*)(*)(*)(*) they have no right to.

    BTW (*)(*)(*)(*) Canada.
     
  20. Badmutha

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    It sure sounded like it.....

    "Actually its the consumers who make business successful."

    Well lets not forget to credit Oxygen.....clearly it played a part a crucial part.....

    ....Actually its Oxygen that makes a business successful.....
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  21. Yosh Shmenge

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    Oh...what are you implying? An elaborate You Tube hoax has being perpetrated? Keep digging...you are almost completely buried.
     
  22. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A) ok, your right. I should have clarified that statement.

    B) Now your just being silly.
     
  23. Craftsman

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    Please point out where I said they were, thank you.
    And it doesn't matter one way or the other, the regs are in place and you have to plan for them.....correct?
    Good, bad or indifferent you still have to plan for them.
    Just like speed limits, there is a stretch of road near me that is 30 mph, no reason for it, it just is. Guess what, you go the speed limit or you get busted, period.

    Hyperbole drudge headlines really don't make your case.
    The real reason is sanitation, just like food service workers. There is a good reason for it.
    To protect the consumer, ever hear of 'identity theft'? Again good reasons for regulations.
    drudge again? If not then it may stem from a practice of some business having the endless 'going out of business' sale.

    Like I said, whining and crying solves nothing, put you big boy pants on and deal with it.
    Most, if not all regulations have a solid reason behind them, it may be out dated and in need of change but, there is a reason for them.
     
  24. Craftsman

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    I'm not 'implying' anything, I'm saying it.
    "Rightists will fall for anything."

    Not digging and certainly not buried.
     
  25. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry, did a Canadian girl break your heart? they do that.

    Anyway, if you had (could?) read the conversation, I wasn't discussing the differences between people who work and people who sponge off the government dime. I was merely pointing out that the thinking that business creators do everything on their own is false. Heck, most business owners don't even open it themselves, they need loans and partners and investors.
     

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