Obama:If you’ve got a business ,you didn’t build that.

Man, you must have been mad when you were scammed out of your money when you bought that keyboard to type on that a businessman brought to market.

 

The simple fact of the matter is that the U.S. is such a great place to do business because of its stability. That stability comes from the government which protects its citizens.

See Somalia for a situation where the government is non-existent and anarchy reigns supreme. Not too many small businesses popping up there.

 

Those same roads, that same unbelievable American system, and that internet, everyone has access to, not just people with thriving businesses. Poor people have access to everything he stated. The difference, many times is hard work and RISK. Risk is huge. Sure, some people get rich because they are pretty, got a great inheritance or stupid people watch their reality television shows, but most people that become wealthy work their ass off and RISK a lot. End of story. Oh, and create a (*)(*)(*)(*) ton more jobs than Obama can or any other president.

 

I would call that childish logic by Obama at best.

What he's saying is that if we support government fire departments then we have to give in to every collectivist idea that big government libs can dream up.

It's all or nothing with Obama and the people who support him.

For libs like Obama it's redistributionist government in every corner of our lives or no government whatsoever.

 

The problem with this is, the business owners were paying taxes the whole time you were building up your business nad before that as well. In fact they were likely paying a greater share of the tax burden since a business owner needs to have a hefty gross income to turn a profit. This means that they have already paid for the infrastructure that they use. A truer analogy would be...

"the chef uses the equipment and ingredients to make his food and without each other, the chef and the utensils, would not be able to perform their duties BUT. The chef bought the ingredients and equipment with HIS money that was earned by working for others or by personally taking on the risk of a loan so, what the hell is your problem and why are we having this stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing conversation. ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!"

 

Lets face it. If there was ever a Presidetn who was an expert on small business from personal experience it would have to be President Barack Obama. That and the fact that the man is so brilliant that his mistake was that while he got the policy decisions right he forgot to tell stories. Sorry, but this man is mad.

My dad had a small business and he spent 30 years fighting the government. Towards the end of his life he said if he had to do it all over again he couldn't. The government was too big and too hostile. His bisness, he buoght and ran small motels.

 

I love how you libs make it out as the government is some entity all on its own. We are the government.

As a matter of fact, there would be no government without citizens, or businesses.

 

Obama organized the African-American shooting gallery named Chicago.

He helped to build that.

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Is there anything righties won't believe?

 

*sigh* I don't think you get what an 'analogy' is. We aren't talking about an actual Chef and the tools he uses to conduct business. The idea is that the Chef is the business/owner, and the tools and ingredients are the parts of business that the owner doesn't buy directly, but supports (along with the rest of the community) via taxes and the like.

Basically we are talking about the division between those who see the business owner as one man on a mountain, and those who see business in general as a group project.

 

I doubt that very many of the people who actually have done the work to build a business consider it to be a group project anything like the people who never started a business seem to.

Government actually seems to be the enemy when you are trying to start a business. They pile up regulations, fees and bureaucracy all of which make building the business more difficult. Now people claim that the business owner owes the government even more for the "help"it gave in building the business?

 

While I do agree that the Red Tape Bureaucracy can be an overburden, not having it is just as bad. The reason there are regulations, is that businesses did the things in which we have the regulations for now.

As for business and group projects, tell me this; has any businesses succeeded without customers? Or workers? Or infrastructure?

 

And just remember someone paid those that built that equipment. That pay supported the ones that built that equipment. Its a dominos effect. So many are effected.

 

Even with all that stuff you are not guaranteed a successful outcome, the chef makes all that come together, not anyone else and certainly not the tools and ingredients.

 

Actually its the consumers who make business successful. If they aren't buying, it ain't a success. If the Chef doesn't make good food, nobody buys. Circle of life. No one part is more important then the other.

 

I've started more than one business and I find your statements to as far from reality as they can get.
You know the regulations and the tax rates going in, you plan for them, if you don't, you're an idiot.
It really is that simple.

 

Bingo!
Red tape, taxes, insurance all of that means NOTHING, all of it can be and should be planned for.
No one has lost a business because of taxes or regulations...no one...they lost their business for the same reason everyone loses their business....mismanagement.
They just don't have the sack to admit it.

 

This is a pure statist statement, the inner Obama revealed.

 

Correction: The US used to be a great place to do business because of a Limited Government/Maximum Freedom.....back when the US was business friendly. And now we have a President and an entire party that views business, especially successful businesses, as THE ENEMY.

Today, an anal exam of any business in the United States....will find liberal bureacrats at the Federal Level, State Level, and City Level residing in the colon. And these liberals only want to go deeper......
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People have a remarkable ability to function under theft and coercion. This doesn't, however, mean that theft and coercion are right.

 

Nothing reveals Obama's basic socialistic mind set than his words here. On a supremely basic level he is right: no one as a human being succeeds on their own but this says nothing about what it takes to succeed in business. His Alinsky-ite message is plainly this... the rich businessman builds his profits on your backs....he owes you something far beyond the product he produces.
What idiots believe Obama should stay in office?

 

The willfull ignorance on display is truely amazing.......
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And you'll find many theoretical business models are today unworkable but would be profitable under the regulatory scheme we had 30 years ago. THAT is government screwing EVERYONE, the business owner, the community, the consumer.

It really is that simple.

 

Maybe Eve was the first hunter-gatherer, and Adam the first consumer, who then gave Eve his seed and pain in exchange for the Apple. Then the business grew with new consumers and hunter-gatherers.

"If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

A careful analysis finds that to be starkly true, so maybe Obama was there. Business depends upon happy consumers who have something to exchange, and to have something to exchange the bulk of them must be happy with a job. If Eve is a dog Adam may want more than an Apple I-pad in exchange for seed, so she outsources to Satan; Adam and Eve are happy until Cain discovers his job was outsourced and his generation then votes for the Obamanation so you get Cain in the Senate and Abel in the House; the Senate then approves of the Demon John Roberts who makes it legal to tax people who do not buy Obamanation insurance. And the rest is history. We get the blood of Abel on the hands of Cain during a reign of terror by PETA. Then we had Global Warming during the time of Methuselah, when the outsourcing was polluting too much. And then we got the Babel rebellion with Globalization when Nimrod was the 1% who wanted more.

If you want to keep that business here you better have more than just consumers here. If free markets and free trade cannot make it happen, voters will think government can.

"Times are tough and employers are having a hard time creating jobs. ( ::: cough ::: regulations ::: cough ::: )" But wait, what exactly are the NEW regulations that exist now that did not exist when the economy failed under Bush?

The business man's dilemma with regard to Supply and Demand is obvious; don't Supply (our economy with enough happy jobs...) and the jobless Demand (Obamanation).

 

Businesses plan for shrinkage as well. Does that mean that the shoplifters aren't harming the business - or like this thread is talking about, does it mean that the shoplifters are helping the business?

Yes you can and should plan for the impediments that the government puts in the way of your business, but that doesn't mean that the government isn't getting in the way of that company's success.