Obama:If you’ve got a business ,you didn’t build that.

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  1. Craftsman

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    You really trust youtube?
    Or the internet in general?
    Wanna buy a bridge?

    Come on man, you proved my point about the media and you did it very very well.
    Thanks for that, now take your lumps and move on.
     
  2. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry man, but Yosh has a point. the EPA guy did say that, and it doesn't engender goodwill from businesses if that is the focus. I personally think he should have resigned for that comment, but it does point a deeper issue.
     
  3. Badmutha

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    ah good. Didn't know he resigned. thanks
     
  5. Yosh Shmenge

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    Yes, "deal" with little children being hounded
    by overly zealous and officious bureaucrats that diminish our freedoms to justify their own petty positions.
    Is a business that regularly "goes out of business" really such a threat to the public well being that they need to pay off their municipality (we are really talking about legalized extortion, here)?
    Some people will defend anything, I guess.
     
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    This whole message was taken out of context. He's saying we recieved help by those that we learn from. From those that make the opportunities for us to take advantage of(i.e. the internet). We received help from those that influence us.

    You don't have to like Obama but at least be honest and credible on your stance against him. You reach more people and cause others to think this way instead of acting as a partisan cheerleader that only derives cheers from their team with silly insults and trickery.
     
  7. Badmutha

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    Silly would be claiming its the customer that carries the burden of making a business successful.....

    .....and not the business owner who spent his life savings and a decade of his life to give YOU the opportunity to walk through the front doors.

    Now go in and buy something.....
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    I don't care. It's the person building the business THEMSELVES that take the risks while paying confiscatory fees and taxes and whateverelse along the way. The US GOV"T doesn't take any risk and they want a piece of every transaction along the way as well as their cut when we die. They deserve nothing. They aren't good stewards of what we do turn over to them AND now they act as if they are OUR masters. Which if you get right down to it, they've set themselves up as such.

    we are so scrude.
     
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    Everyone in the process carries the burden of a successful business. While the owner has a more direct connection (if it goes out of business, they lose directly) society loses out on a grander scale when business fails. Look at detroit. No business, no economy, people leave, the city fails. I do believe (honestly) that people who start businesses are more of a societal contributor then say, the 24 y/o burger flipper at McDicks, and deserves the recompense that is due, but to think that a business owner becomes successful without society to get him there, is a fallacy.
     
  10. Badmutha

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    Did you say the same thing about Elizabeth Runs-With-Lies Warren and her comments?
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  11. RedWolf

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    Show me the comment in full context and we'll see.
     
  12. Craftsman

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    I can stand in front of a podium and say anything I like, it doesn't make it true, even if I put it on youtube.
    I question that that is an 'EPA guy'.
    Thus yosh has no standing and in fact DID prove my point about having a media fed opinion.
    It ain't rocket surgery.
     
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    No it doesn't but....it sure does to most rightists, which I find ironic. They vilify 'the media' then use the worst parts of the media, the absolute worst parts to feed their paranoia.
    Strange.

    Thanks for the link.
    It does back up my original statement, he made inaccurate statements, and the rightists glomed on to them like a viper.
    He lost his career over it, sad.
     
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    [video=youtube;AHFHznu-N-M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHFHznu-N-M[/video]

    You can't create a succesfull business on your own.....you cant get rich on your own......Julia cant buy birth control on her own......

    ........its an all powerful all controlling centralized Nanny Statist Government that makes EVERYTHING possible. And without it, 300 million Americans would just lay down and die.
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  15. Yosh Shmenge

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    Again....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/30/al-armendariz-epa-official-resigns_n_1464919.html.

    It sure ain't rocket surgery. It's a brain dead lie repeated over and over again.
     
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    So business don't use any infrastructure at all?
    No roads, bridges, fire, police, water sewer systems?
    Should they just get a pass on those costs? You going to pay for them?
    FEDEX shouldn't have to license their trucks, abide by any of the DOT rules, you and I should pay for the roads that earn BILLIONS off of, we should pay for the airports for the planes they have, the inspectors to make sure they are maintained, safe and flight/road worthy?

    Thats just one type business, now do you really mean what you say?
     
  17. Craftsman

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    And what she says is true.
    You can't operate a business in a vacuum.
     
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    A foundational goal of progressive leftism is to marginalize the importance of individual effort...
    and play up the importance of "collective" effort....

    to minimize the importance of individual rights, liberty and economic freedom...
    and maximize the importance of the "rights" of the "collective".

    Unbelievably, one such despicable scumbag currently soils the sheets in the People's House.
     
  19. Craftsman

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    Gosh that sounds,controlling, cajoling, belittling, mocking, regulating, taxing, fining, banning, silencing, manipulating and coercing.
    So conservative like.
     
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    Well thats why I used your Bible....The NYT....

    ....I noticed you didnt attack it......unlike that partisan right wing rag YouTube.

    He let the cat out of the bag......CRUCIFY THEM!

    EPA Regs to Close 10 Coal Plants in Michigan
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    "No one has lost a business because of taxes or regulations...no one..."
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    True enough, but how does she then arrive at the conclusion that it is necessary for some people to initiate aggression against the person and property of others?
     
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    Alright just.hang with me for a little bit while I wait for it to download and watch. I'll tell you my thoughts on it then.
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

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    We ALL use roads, bridges, the fire department, etc.
    What does this really say about the people that have the drive and energy to start their own business (in spite of government interferrence and
    over regulation)? Nothing really. The efforts by liberals to invoke a collectivist mindset is noted.
     
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    Most, if not All regulations have NO SOCIETAL COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS DONE. EXTERNALITIES AND UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES PLAGUE UNFETTERED BIG FED REGULATORY TYRANNY.

    A 'solid' reason' is far from enough.
     
  25. Badmutha

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    Business Owners pay Gas Taxes.....

    Business Owners get raped via property taxes...at home...and even worse at work--100% roll.

    Looks like they are paying those costs and then some.......how is it not THEIR FAIR SHARE?
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