Pakistani men can beat wives 'lightly,' Islamic council says

British Colonial India was divided in to two separate states in 1947. A Muslim-majority Pakistan, and a Hindu-majority India.

I wonder why you ignored this (post #14):

In a report published by UNITED NATIONS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMME (UNDP) in 2013, Pakistan finished better (ranked 123rd) on the gender front than stronger economies such as India(132), even though it ranked lower in the overall Human Development Index (HDI). In fact, Pakistan has performed better than India over the last ten years in the "gender inequality index" .... I am comparing Pakistan to India because both countries share in common almost everything (history, culture, customs etc.), with one major exception ; that is, Pakistan is an "Islamic" Republic whereas India is (supposedly) "Secular" ... So, if religion (i.e Islam) had (any) role to play, it was 'apparently' positive .. !!

Link to the UNDP report : http://hdr.undp.org/en/2013-report


Also, If Islam (the religion of peace) actually promoted "women's oppression", Muslim countries like Kyrgyzstan (where 80 % of total population is Muslim), Azerbaijan (95 % Muslim) and Uzbekistan (90 % Muslim) wouldn't be ranking 2nd and 6th in the world on CPIA gender equality rating , despite the fact that Uzbekistan and Kyrgyz Republic are "very weak" economies .. :

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indi...DR.XQ/rankings

 

No. It's an honest question. How do you know he wasn't just a schizophrenic or a psychopath? You base your entire life around what some guy from thousands of years ago said. That, IMO, is beyond silly.

 

Michael H Hart, while listing prophet Muhammad as the most influential man in human history, points out that he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.

It's your choice to believe in a God(s) and his messengers or not. But the fact remains that Muhammad was a genius, and arguably the most successful man in human history.

“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?”

― Alphonse de Lamartine

 

This proves nothing and is evidence of nothing. Psychopaths and schizophrenics can in fact be quite intelligent. My suggestion, if you hear voices in your head that you think are "gods" telling you things, seek therapy.

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He was an ignorant man (like most people from those times), ignorant of how the world really works and wanted to attribute things to "gods."

 

That is your personal opinion. And you are entitled to it. But a lot of people (numbering in billions) out there do not agree with you. And they are entitled to their opinion/belief. I hope you realize that Declaring all those who don't agree with you 'silly' doesn't prove (nor is an evidence of) your own intelligence ..

 

Religion is the biggest con ever pulled on people. Many are just too stupid to think for themselves. That's why they believe in these bibles and Qurans which were written during ancient times when men didn't understand much about the way the world worked and so they made up stories about gods.

Don't you think the Greeks believed just as much in their gods as you do? Of course they did!

What makes you think that your god is the right god anyways? Maybe you should worship Zeus instead.

 

Again, that's just your opinion.

But, have you ever tried to read/understand the Holy Quran yourself, before forming an opinion about it ?

 

Sorry, I don't believe that there is a "sky daddy." No physical evidence exists for such other than the "word" of ancient men.

 

Okay sorry, of course you are entitled to believe in your god (s). I just think it's rather silly and causes a LOT of problems in the world that we see happening today.

 

Why do you need to wonder? They already have responded. The relationship between the Pakistan has been fragile for a long time. The US has routinely violated Pakistani sovereignty in order to pursue terrorists and continues to do so. The most visible case being the killing of Bin Ladin. The US, the Obama administration, doesn't at all trust the Pakistani regime. But we need to work with them in order to pursue terrorists.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/236860.pdf

 

In an alternate bill to the Punjab’s controversial Protection of Women against Violence Act (PPWA) 2015, the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), that advises the government on the compatibility of laws with Islam, has proposed that husbands should be allowed to ‘lightly’ beat the defying wives.

The Women’s Protection Act, passed by Punjab, gives unprecedented legal protection to women from domestic, psychological and sexual violence. It also calls for the creation of a toll-free abuse reporting hot line and the establishment of women’s shelters.

http://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/338423-CII-recommends-light-beating-for-wife-if-she-def

Pakistan has made violence against women illegal and the conservative group is trying to dilute the effects of the Women’s Protection Act by the alternative proposal. This is similar to what some American conservatives are doing to transsexuals.

 

Well, as stated earlier, It's your choice to believe in a God(s) and his messengers or not. But don't you think that before rejecting the "word" of ancient men and forming strong opinions about it, you should actually try to read/understand it ?

 

If you know one religion, you know them all. They are all pretty much the same.

 

It's not religion that is causing all those problems. It's the US Military Industrial Complex, Your global hegemonic ambitions and Capitalism that is causing those problems. Religion is being used only .... It's all a matter of perspective. Even the so called Islamic State is the cancer of modern capitalism:

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/cancer-modern-capitalism-1323585268

 

You make it seem that the law will never protect women in that country unlike in others... which is ridiculous.

since you put it in quote marks,.. makes it so that it is your typical mock from the muslim haters.

 

Oh, is that why ISIS is killing the native peoples in the brutal ways that it does? Because . . . America?

 

Al-Qaeda, of which ISIS was an offshoot, would never have gained ground had America not intervened in Afghanistan; and current interventions in Syria and Iraq are also making things a heck of a lot worse. The best thing America could do would be to go away.

 

So, let them kill each other and not intervene? Fine by me.

 

Or rather, let them fizzle out, provide as much grassroots support (not necessarily in person; a lot can be done through social media, campaigns in one's home country, even zakat money) as possible and keep Western governments and their own killing sprees out of it.

 

How long has this been going on for now? When do we expect ISIS to "fizzle out?"

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They'd better stop recruiting people here in America to commit atrocities then. When they do that, they are asking for it.

 

When they run out of alienated recruits to manipulate (and oil cash). Such recruits are a product of the horrific ghettoisation going on across much of the West, and of general popular discontent. This has to die out first (and it has done in the past: the 1960s and 1970s were hotbeds of discontent, but people eventually got bored).

Some serious introspection and study of the factors contributing to recruitment would be far more beneficial here.

 

Meanwhile, we get people who have dedicated themselves to this group of terrorists (which is obviously quite WELL funded), attacking innocent American citizens as we recently saw with the Pulse Night Club mass murder.

 

The American public probably is not aware of these numbers and knows even less about the proxy wars for which the United States is also responsible. In the latter wars there were between nine and 14 million deaths in Afghanistan, Angola, Democratic Republic of the Congo, East Timor, Guatemala, Indonesia, Pakistan and Sudan.

..... This theme is developed in this report which contains an estimated numbers of such deaths in 37 nations as well as brief explanations of why the U.S. is considered culpable.

US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II

 

Sure; and we all have to think seriously about why that is rather than just bombing the crap out of other countries like some child getting revenge on their playground enemy.

 

I don't buy that as the reason for glorified gangs like ISIS. Let's be realistic, they want power and control. They took advantage of a bad situation and made it worse. Before this ugly group reared it's head, women were beginning to make headway. A lot of people from the ME supported the US being there and were happy that Saddam Hussein was "eliminated."

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We don't risk our people's lives in order to do a psychiatric evaluation on a group of backward arse retards.