Palestinian Statehood ( Part 3 )

There WAS no NATION referred to as Jordan until the British created it. And they brought in a Saudi buddy of Lawrence's from Mecca to be the first Jordanian "king". There may have been areas within the Ottoman empire with names like Syria and Lebanon, but there were NOT countries with those names until created by nothing more complicated than drawing lines on a map on a tabletop in London. As a matter of fact, it was this complete disregard for the cohesiveness of area tribal and sectarian sensibilities and loyalties that led to the aristocrats in London drawing the country of Iraq that forced sunnis and shiites who had HATED each other for a millennium to attempt to coexist together. You folks talk about "statehood" for palestinians as if it had been this centuries long unfulfilled yearning. That just wasn't so. AND... as I said earlier, if the palestinians were serious about wanting to be grownups in the community of nations, they would not have thumbed their noses at the UN and the rest of the world and attempted to drive the Jews out of the little sliver of territory that those same London map makers gave to them. They told the UN to go stick its partition plan where the sun didn't shine and then they and the entire pan arab army got their BUTTS handed to them by the Israelis... and now they come back to the UN whining that they want another bite of the apple and that we should trust them and that they'll act like adults THIS time. Bull. They took a chance. They fought a war. They lost... bigtime. Suck it up. Move to Jordan and get on with your life.

 

Sorry, Jud, you can NOT place the blame for the 1920 Arab riots on the Jews. You can NOT place the 1929 Arab riots on the Jews. You can Not place the 1947 Arab/Jews civil war on the Jews. You can NOT place the 1948/9 Arab/sraeli war on the Jews. You can NOT place the 1956 Egypt/Israel war on the Jews although many of you have tryed. You can NOT place the 1967 Arab/Israeli war on the Jews. You can NOT place the 1973 Arab/Israeli war on the Jews. Etc, etc, etc!!! The majority of you Arab brothern were all for killing jews so I WILL place the blame on them.

 

And once they are a state if they keep doing as they are I would say that Israel should crush them

 

Hey, sneekysnake, my Israeli hero is Moshe Dayan.

 

There has NEVER been a Nation, Country, or State named "Palestine". And please explain why your not talking about a reunified "palestine"???

http://www.justicenow4israel.com/mandatemap.html

If you would bother looking into the history of the area "Palestine" has always been an unincorporated area or territory, NEVER a Nation, Country, or State.

 

Sheesh, you know next to nothing about the middle east. Please tell us when "Jordan" became a nation. How about Syria, when did they become a nation. The same goes for Lebanon, when did it become a nation. Now, tell us when "Palestine" became a nation.

 

Hey, Goomer, since Israel has been a nation for 64 years, are you going to deny they exist???

 

Such writings are heavily bloated with anti-Semite hatred... That's so Israel! All Jews and all Arabs have nothing to do with the racist hostility you are smearing them with.

 

Hey, Gomer, your beloved "Palestinians" ARE the hostile enity and they have no rights until they quit attacking.

 

Such racist hatred.... That's so Israel! Attacking Semites with racist hatred does not prove that they are as evil as Israel needs to claim. One needs facts to prove that the hated Semites are evil, not the endless repetition of anti-Semite slurs.

 

Can you for once addess the issues instead of babbling your nosensical drivel ??
No??? What a supprise

 

First, WHAT COUNTRY??? Second, if you would bother to look at a 1920 map you would see that Jordan has 77% of the land in the ara known as "Palestine".

Since I know you have a hard time looking things up here it is for you;

http://www.justicenow4israel.com/mandatemap.html

 

Israel endlessly smears Semites with unconditional racist hatred, and then it gets all huffy and puffy when its anti-Semite hatred is criticized. That's understandable. Racists don't like it when their racism is criticized, and Israel is a heavily racist entity.

 

Europe likely made a mistake, allowing Holocaust abuse to create a heavily racist regime which endlessly advocates hatred against the Semites one had hoped to protect.

 

Hey, I'm NOT Israel. I use mostly historical sites. So far all you have been doing is attacking the messenger and ignoring the message. And as far as racists go, I have found no natioality more racist than the Arabs. So your constent drivil does nothing to help or harm anybody. Try the truth for once, you know, "the truth sets you free".

 

Europe likely made a mistake??? You think the Hoplocaust was nothing but a mistake??? Trying to eradicate a people a mistake??? Israel isn't trying to eradicate the Arabs, they are trying to get the Arabs to quit attacking them!!! Duuuu, what a concept

 

I must concede, expatriate, for you are correct with regards to the above. Sorry for any inconvenience.

I don't see how this is relevant.

The Palestinians were right to reject the Partition Plan; indeed, even though they owned around 90 percent of Palestine, the Plan gave them less than 50 percent.1

"By 1947, estimates of the percentage of Jews fluctuate between 20 percent and 30 percent, depending on whether the percentage includes illegal immigrants. Nevertheless, the territory allocated to the prospective Jewish state by the Partition Plan consisted of approximately half of the total territory of Palestine. Thus, 80 percent of the Arab population of Palestine, who owned 90 percent of the land received approximately half of of the overall territory."2

1 http://domino.un.org/maps/m0094.jpg

2 Ben-Ami, Shlomo, & Bassiouni, Cherif (2009). A Guide To Documents On The Arab-Palestinian/Israeli Conflict: 1897-2008. The Netherlands: Martinus Nijhoff Publishers.

http://www.brill.nl/guide-documents-...lict-1897-2008

 

Of course not, like Palestinians, they exist.

 

Three hundred years ago the North American tribes had 100% of North America. A couple of hours perusing modern international territorial law should cure your problem.

 

Do you want to be ?

Here's some truth towards your freedom;

Arabic is not a nationality.
" constent drivil " is a very apt expression for what you've posted to date.

 

I never said that anyone is Israel. I just pointed out that much of the hatred being expressed is, well.... so typical Israel! This is given, considering that so many individuals advocate racism on Israel's behalf, promoting the view that Israel represents the anti-Semitism of the post Nazi era.

 

Such Holocaust abuse won't succeed in fooling gullible American Guilt Complex members. Nothing exists to support such claims of extremism aimed against the critic of anti-Semitism.

Israel attempts to demonstrate this concept by attacking Semites with hate-propaganda, justifying the murder of innocent civilians and expanding illegal settlements beyond Israeli borders. Has humanity ever witnessed such similar behavior in the past?

 

Hey- the "prohpetofdoom.com" is a credible and scholarly source for information!

 

Goomba said: There are no American people, they are just Europeans.

One could say only native Americans are "Americans" and Palestinians are only "Arabs". One could say only those actually born in Israel are "Israelis". One can say anything if it appears to prove a point. In the final analysis one could say we are all, "homo primordial africanus". But that would prove nothing and would serve no purpose.

Of course, that's a fabricated classification of my own doing. Nevertheless, it serves to make a point: National and ethnic classifications of convenience prove nothing! National identification is a function of culture and history based on self-identification and recognition by others. We are all whatever culture and history says we are!

 

Yes indeed, except for the views of the unique few who choose to reject reality in favor of unnecessary cultural/religious hostilities.