Prof. Noam Chomsky - Washington's Propaganda Is Orwellian

Ok, let's have chapter and verse evidence for Chomsky being a communist sympathizer and apologist please? Provide the necessary links. Go ahead and knock yourself out on this, and good luck. I interviewed him for an hour many years ago for a feature article. He's a thoughtful, smart and pleasant man imo.

The fact is he's certainly a socialist, no question. But he regarded Soviet communism as a horrible thing that betrayed socialist ideals.

The "last you heard" is also wrong. Yes, he is a professor of linguistics, but has written a great deal more on political issues than linguistics. Just check out his list of published books and what subjects he covers.

 

History teaches us that the world changes ... Today US, tomorrow China, may be in a century India ... one never knows [personally I'd prefer India, if I have to express a preference].

 

The problem Europe will face is it has very little in the way of Energy reserves except of course Russian West Siberian Europe.

In 2023 both Canada and the U.S. will become 100% ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT.

Not one single Barrel of Oil will be imported into the U.S. or Canada.

It just took many decades for the Technology to be developed for the U.S. to be able to convert both quickly and easily.....Shale into Oil and Canada converting Sand Tar into Oil.

Current estimates have North America having 6.1 TIMES the total Middle Eastern Oil Reserves.

The United States has the largest Coal Reserves on the Planet and will continue to be the Worlds #1 Largest Exporter of Coal.

But as well...the U.S. is now the Worlds #1 Exporter of Shale Oil and Canada the Worlds #1 Exporter of Sand Tar Oil.

The amount of money necessary just to DEVELOP SIBERIAN INFRASTRUCTURE as the vast amount of Oil and Natural Gas exists in Western Siberia not Eastern Siberia....is calculated between $1 and $2 Trillion.

Massive Road Systems that will not sink oe turn to mush in spring and summer in Siberian Permafrost must be developed as well as Housing, Hospitals...everything needed BEFORE OIL AND NATURAL GAS TEST DRILLING BEGINS NEVERMIND ACTUALLY SETTING UP DRILLING RIGS, PUMPING STATIONS AND PIPELINES THAT WON'T SINK.....must be developed and that money spent first.

Well before any of this happens....China and Europe will be competing for U.S., Canadian and Middle Eastern Oil and the Natural Gas reserves in North America are so large an actual number of estimate has proven to difficult as yet to calculate.

Right now it is the U.S. that controls the vast majority of Oil Flow from the Middle East as far as how much get's pumped out and wh get's it.

Thus as Russia has proven itself to unstable to partner with as Putin burned all his bridges with Western Europe after he seized all Russian Companies that European Nations had large investments in as Putin seized them and called them STATE OWNED!!

Thus as the U.S. will no longer need Middle Eastern Oil.....as we have so much Oil we will be exporting it....just as Canada will also be exporting Oil and both the U.S. and Canada will be exporting massive amounts of LNG as well as China will continue to increase Imports of U.S. Coal.....it will be EUROPE that will be in a Bidding War with China trying to purchase Cheap North American Oil and LNG and Coal.

Russia will have to sell Oil at $120 a Barrel just to pay for Siberian Infrastructure Development.

AboveAlpha

 

I agree.

Why India?

 

I would ask you to provide links in support of your statement, Alpha. But you rarely do.

I agree that the US weapon is the control of other nations through mid eastern oil. It has wanted control of Russian energy too, but the whole thing about Yukos oil put paid to that, although US and German intelligence guys were working in the background on all that. The US needs to control energy to maintain what is an effective blackmail strategy over the world by shutting off the tap whenever it suits them as well as manipulating the price of bullion and oil and gas.

The problem with the latter is that it will - and already has - backfired. The NY set benchmark for the gold price is ignored in different parts of the world where buyers will pay a premium for the metal - thus two markets will emerge as is happening with BRICS and the new Chinese-Russian Silk Road, for example.

The problem with the former (oil) is that blackmailing partners and foes alike, causes abiding resentment. And when the day arrives when that control slips out of the hands of the US - and it will happen - then wave farewell to US hegemony. Blackmail and coercion are probably the least sensible way to trade and deal with other nations, but the US doesn't know how to engage in ways other than flexing its muscle - hence the growing resentment throughout the world.

You're living in the cold war past, Alpha. The world is changing, but I don't think you can allow yourself see it.

 

Mere personal feelings, I deal better with Indians than with Chinese.

 

I wasn't aware of this. However I am aware that America both nurtured and supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge after suffering the embarrassment of the hated Vietnamese and their invasion of Cambodia.

 

He traveled to and spoke GLOWINGLY about the paradise of Cambodia under the pol pot regime all well documented and proven. That was defense of a communist regime.

He is not a history professor and never has been as the op claims.

He has no variety in his writings he pens books about linguistics or america bashing.

His america bashing books are normally based on out right lies.

Being a pleasant man in an interview proves nothing.

 

How does this excuse Chomsky's love of pol pot?

 

And that is exactly how we moved from a free republic into an oligarchy, americans don't really care but the media is not doing its job in informing americans of the facts. When the Princeton study was published, MSM made sure not to cover the biggest story since 9-11, for it showed only the 1 percent have a voice in policy, and that most policy favors them, perhaps because they write it and congress votes yes on it.

I once saw Chomsky when he was young tear William F Buckely a new (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), by just using historical facts. Buckely even threatened to punch him in the nose. LOL

We are living in Orwellian times, no doubt about that. And MSM which is also FOX are propaganda arms. Most americans don't know it propaganda. And not that long ago, the ACT that was passed in 1940 which banned propaganda being used on the American people was trashed, in one of the new National Security policies. So in that respect we are just like Nazi Germany. It is now legal.

I have also found that people who think Chomsky is a nut, or stupid, are generally not very well educated, and are like the americans who gobble up MSM propaganda swallowing hook, line and sinker. I don't agree with all that Chomsky says, but 99 percent of the time, you cannot argue with the facts he uses. Unless you are one of those people who feel entitled to creating their own facts.

 

What parallel was claimed ? You said Chomsky made a parallel between Nazi Germany and the US. What was that parallel ?

 

I should think that parallel would be obvious to everyone because of our indifference towards human life. We pit one group against another in the Middle East, Ukraine and other places where we want a regime change...and support the most inhumane elements such as the terrorists in Syria, and Nazis in Ukraine...knowing that they will be committing mass murders. That is known as genocide.

Washington then covers it up with lies and propaganda. They call coups and regime change; democracy and human rights, and anyone who objects; terrorists. Washington sees this as an inherent right, for they are the 'exceptional' people, and they are the ones who know what's best for all the 'untermenchen'...which they feel shouldn't be alive anyway. If these lesser humans object to their lands being fracked, then off with their heads, and if these farmers want to hold on to their lands, then send them to die...after all the land can produce more under Monsanto with its poison. As for anyone who is left, they will be the serfs.

 

You only make my counter-thrust more effective by not bothering to research the truth of that allegation. Or should I say more accurately, the baselessness of it. See Here, and Here. I think you may be confusing Chomsky with Brzezinski and the then US administration who did support Pol Pot, albeit via third party: China - see HERE.

To my knowledge he has never claimed to be a history professor and I don't see the relevance of you saying this - other than suggesting that only history professors are qualified to render judgements on matters of American policy.

Variety is a personal matter. You might as well present an argument about hair length for all the meaning it brings.

Please evidence the lies your speak of - if you can?

I certainly am in agreement with him in saying that America needs bashing when it comes to it's foreign policy and rapacious business ethics. Besides, he's an American and if he can't speak against the system in his native land that he experiences, then what point democracy? Such as it is anyway.

Being a pleasant man proves that he is a pleasant man...

 

Please provide a link in which Chomsky expresses his alleged love for Pol Pot.

Thanks.

 

Borat is claiming that Chomsky made some parallel between USA and Nazi Germany but can not seem to spit out what that parallel was. Never mind whether or not the parallel is valid.

I have a number of parallels but Chomsky is the topic.

On parallel is the use of "fear of an external threat" to take away rights and freedoms.

Stalin was not the first but he certainly wrote a textbook on now to use fear to take away right and freedoms. Stalin called his program "Security for the Motherland"

Hitler did the same thing "Fatherland Security"

Bush did that same thing using fear of a foreign threat to institute "Homeland Security"

Parallel ? Heck, Bush was not even creative enough to come up with a different name.

As usual, Chomsky hits the nail on the head.

The US has been the primary factor in the destabilization of the ME and they make no secret of it. What do we call supporting and extremist Islamic insurgents (including Al Qaeda and Al Nusra) in Syria ? Nation building ? This is Orwellian doublespeak .

 

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14...an-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans
BY JOHN HUDSONJULY 14, 2013 - 7:06 PM

"For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts"......

 

There is no freedom of speech in Israel, and Russian Zionists encouraged Putin to adapt censorship laws in Russia.

 

yeah they hear about it but only briefly, the story gets covered but just barely. As you can see from the this list the top covered news stories the year snowden was arrested wasn't snowden or assange or even national surveillance. but it did include the UK's royal birth the papal transition and north korea: http://news.yahoo.com/year-in-review/2013-top-10-news-stories-list/

http://www.globalissues.org/article/163/media-in-the-united-states#ChomskyHermanPropaganda Model

We're getting closer and closer too north korea:
[video=youtube;8O2IlSz0Lg8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O2IlSz0Lg8[/video]

 

The op described him as a history professor which is what I was criticizing.

His visit and defense of pol pot is well documented look it up.

 

Okay, but I have nothing to do with that.

I have and posted links to show that it was all false - the Hitchins essay being especially relevant. Did you look those links up?

Thought not.

 

You obviously have not as he gave live interviews from cambodia

 

It seems to me that you're being purposely obtuse on this matter. That he gave an interview from Cambodia is not important. What he said in that interview is.

So okay, go ahead a provide a full transcript of what he said (and link the interview too please) and I'll parse it and repost on it. Fair enough?

 

Seems to me you are selective and willfully ignorant of details in hour hero worship of a man who is a proven and blatent liar and hypocrite.

Do you also overlook his millions including massive financing from the military?

Maybe you did not know he condemns others for this.

Funny how communists or socialists ( same thing ) love to make millions of dollars while whining about capitalism.

 

Yep. The whole truth is a "weapon" in the eyes of our liar government, a massive corrupt system of people who make their living through lies and manipulation of the public.

It has to be the faux electoral system that makes it possible for this crap to continue as it has done to date, since it allows Americans suffering from cognitive dissonance to direct their distrust and anger toward the government into the two-party clown show, feeling that their vote for the "lesser evil" of the two is making a positive difference. This in turn helps keep revolutionary sentiment at bay, as well as maintaining material comfort does (bread and circuses).

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Now there's something that demands far more attention than it's getting!

 

Chomsky and Buckley were both A$$E$!!

One thought he knew everything....the other thought he knew everything.

Reality was quite different....not even in the middle.

AboveAlpha