Republicans end Capitol Hill smoking ban

Back to smoking and limb loss from Peripheral Vascular Disease

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2021.704106/full

I underlined the portion relevant to the thread topic

 

hmmm. now there is a thought...
Let them damage their respiratory health, become incapacitated .........by CHOICE. As if the various addictive problems we face are not enough.

Seems that aspects of a proper health education is missing Smokers should be fully informed about the negatives of smoking..........and if they still choose to get addicted to smoking...... and/or get a respiratory problem..........it is on them. Health conscious people should just keep their distance from them.

Playing crap shoot with ones own life is one thing.......but with other lives is quire another.

Smoking/ non smoking is not a political issue, it is a public health issue

Why would one Choose to become addicted..........and smell like stale smoke anyhow??

PART OF THIS EDUCATION SHOULD BE A TRIP TO THE MORGUE TO SEE WHAT DAMAGE IS DONE TO LUNGS.... INCLUDING CANCER. OR TO A WARD THAT IS TREATING PEOPLE WITH RESPIRATORY CONDITIONS THAT RESULT FROM SMOKING.(DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY)

 

Lols!

 

totally agree, if you have bad kidneys, you have to take that into account

and yes, that is why they sell potassium supplements in such low doses, too much is dangerous

Avocados are a good source

but low potassium is an issue too right, you would agree with that? that being malnourished in potassium is an issue

 

This reminds me of the old joke about the customer in a store who was smoking. The store manager approached him and pointed to the “No smoking” sign saying “Sir you cannot smoke in here”. The customer kept puffing and said “You sell them, I can smoke them”
The manager coolly replied “Yes Sir and we also sell Laxettes!”

 

Basically any fruit. I worked in a dialysis unit and the Renal Physician used to tell all the patients they could only have one piece of fruit a day (no chocolate) and then he told the story of the patient who on hearing that went home and ate a whole watermelon!!!!

 

Oh! Dear! Perhaps this should apply to congress!

 

and of course the whole fruit, not fruit juices, especially if one has a fatty liver

 

or they could have let airlines offer smoking and non-smoking flights

and of course now we are learnign about some of the dangers of the jet fuel fumes in some planes

 

To nail some of these things down: if you "support bans inside public buildings," then you support Pelosi's banning it in the Capitol, and so are against the Republicans' bringing it back? I know that should be what we could assume from your words, but I have a feeling that is not an accurate reflection of your feelings in the matter.

I now understand, that by "public buildings," you mean libraries & such, not privately owned buildings, that are used by the general public, like supermarkets-- is that right? Because I would have said that I believed supermarkets ban smoking on their own-- without being under any government compulsion, to do so. But I found out that they would fall under a category which would require a general ban of smoking, though this doesn't mean that supermarkets may not have before then, or would not otherwise now, prohibit smoking, on their own. The culture has very much shifted, on smoking, and it is understood that general society is not approving of it. I will reiterate the point that, though in New York it is a law, that there is no smoking in restaurants, many restaurants are happy with that law, as it removes the awkwardness of needing to ask a patron to not smoke, because it is bothering another patron. It is mostly only certain bars, which would prefer there not be a smoking ban.

In my neighboring state, CT, I was honestly not completely sure whether it was the law, or just common practice, that there is generally no smoking in restaurants. I think most people understand, that it is rude to smoke in certain environments, like a restaurant, and make others breathe your smoke, and smell that, instead of their food. Restaurants catering to smokers, have patio areas for smoking (in the warmer months). I would guess that a fair part of the rationale behind the legal ban, in restaurants, might have to do with not just the often very close seating & confined space (at least, prior to Covid), but to the fact that children can be brought to restaurants, even to nice ones, and this is perceived (right or wrong) as being more harmful for them, to be around people smoking. Yet, those childless bars, are included, I believe, in the NY State ban. But this got me wondering, so I did a little research, and found it is banned in any business with at least 5 workers (though those businesses are allowed to designate specific rooms, for smoke breaks). Since my liberal leaning state also outlaws child labor, I guess this means that my theory about the influence of kids, in passing the no-smoking law, was incorrect. Here is probably more info than you want, about CT smoking law:

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Effective April 1, 2004

Smoking is prohibited in Off Track Betting establishments

Retail food stores

Hospitals, nursing homes, rest homes, homes for the elderly, home health care agencies, and infirmaries, both public and private.

Buildings owned or leased by the state or any political subdivision of the state

School buildings during school hours and activities

Elevators, private or publicly owned

Dormitories in public institution of higher education


Effective October 1, 2003

Smoking is prohibited in all restaurants

Smoking is prohibited in all bars except those holding cafe or tavern permits

Smoking is prohibited in outside seating of a restaurant that has a ceiling or other type of covering. Outside seating that does not have a ceiling or other type of covering must have 75% of that seating designated smoke free

Smoking is prohibited in all workplaces with 5 or more employees. There can be a smoking room designated for employees that conform to OSHA guidelines for ventilation and guidelines set forth in Sec 19a-342

Businesses with less than 5 employees must provide a smoke free environment upon request from an employee

Smoking is prohibited in establishments with the following liquor permits: hotel, restaurant, juice bar, university, resort, railroad, airline, bowling establishment, racquetball facility, special sporting facility, nonprofit theater, nonprofit public museum

Smoking is prohibited in private institutions of higher education

Hotels must maintain 75% of rooms smoke free


Exceptions to the Law:

Private club with liquor permits as of May 1, 2003

Tobacco bars pursuant to Chapter 545 that, in the calendar year ending December 31, 2003, generated 10% or more of its total annual gross income from the on-site sale of tobacco products

Correctional facilities

Smoking areas of psychiatric facilities

Public housing projects

Classrooms where smoking is part of medical or scientific research

Testing areas of a business that is engaged in the testing or development of tobacco or tobacco product



Other Connecticut laws and regulations prohibit smoking in the following areas:

Theater auditoriums (Fire Safety Code, Section 29-109-113)

Areas near flammable and combustible liquids (Fire Safety Code, 29-320 in accordance with NFPA code)

Bakeries (CT Gen. Stat. 21a-157)

Pasteurizing plants (CT Gen. Stat. 22-201)

Food preparation and processing plants (Public Health Code, 19-13,B42)

Buses and railroad cars (CT Gen. Stat. 53-19
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I'd also wondered if there were differences in the rules for NY City, versus the state, but what I saw in my quick Google search, was not as clear as I would've liked. I asked about the state, and got a suggested answer, about the state, but it is from a website about NY City:

<Google Snip>
Where can you smoke in NY State?

Where You Can Legally Smoke:

In a hotel room designated for smokers.
In a private residence.
In a private vehicle.
On city sidewalks but not within 15 feet of any entrance or exit to a health care facility.
Retail tobacco stores.
Tobacco Bars.
At Cigar Bars (ask first)
https://www.nycbynatives.com › sm...
New York City for Smokers - Where You Can and Cannot Smoke - NYC by Natives
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First sentence is not true. And strict Muslims also wash 5 times a day. And some deodorants are over -powering

 

It is true and Muslims don't take a bath 5 times a day.

 

You didn't answer the question. I didn't expect you to...lol

 

No it's not. Subtle smelling deodorants are allowed for women and any scented deodorants are allowed for men. Strict Muslims wash before every prayer, I did not say bath

 

And you have not provided a citation to prove your “truth”

 

I did answer - but your question was based on a fallacy which I corrected

 

It wasn't a fallacy. Do 100% of Muslims avoid deodorant? No, but some do.

Let's face reality: if a non-white co-worker didn't practice personal hygiene to your satisfaction, you wouldn't say a damn thing for fear of being called a racist.

 

Looks like Wild Bill got caught making yet another false claim.

 

Some non-Muslims also avoid deodorant. Nothing in Islam says that Muslims cannot use deodorants, and in facts, males are encouraged to use as much perfume as they can

 

CBD is the medicinal compound that helps with all you mentioned, thc is a psychoactive.. At this point and the power of chemistry the two are now separated and the medicinal CBD becomes another MAY/MIGHT/COULD

Ever wonder why it's always a "MAY/Could"

1. May relieve pain
2. Could reduce symptoms related to some mental health disorders
3. May alleviate certain cancer-related symptoms
4. May have neuroprotective properties
5. May benefit heart health
6. Other potential benefits

And then when some claims ivermectin MAY/COULD help with COVID they lose their MUD lmfao

 

You're right. That's why my original post on this particular side show to the big show started out by saying some cultures avoid deodorant and don't practice the same level of hygiene as most Americans do.

Fact is, if a co-worker doesn't smell exactly like you want them to, you have to put up with it to a certain extent.

If you and I shared a cubicle and I smoked away from work and you don't like the tobacco smell in my clothes, then that's tough ****.

 

1) your claim is a rabbit hole .. has nothing to do with the question.. and Capital Hill is in Washington DC .. so you didn't have to Say DC to know it us under that Jurisdiction.. Your claim that there is no law governing smoking in Capitol Hill is completely false ... but .. what part of .. this has nothing to do with the question .. for the 3rd or 5th time .. are you having trouble understanding.

Do you support smoking bans .. like the ban in DC and every other US State .. no smoking anywhere in the workplace. .. you crying about the ban in DC doesn't answer the question.. leaving way too much wiggle room .. and for one such as yourself who has been squirming like worm on a hook for 3 or 4 posts now .. your answer is a non answer.

So .. once again .. Do you .. or do you not .. support a complete smoking ban in the workplace.

Not complicated .. no need to repeat your nonsensical and purile claim that there is no smoking ban on Capital Hill .. has nothing to do with the question .. and does not answer the question. ...

 

You didn't say some cultures, you wrote "Muslim cultures forbid the use of deodorant." which is what I have corrected. If anything, Muslim culture practice a higher level of hygiene due to the requirement that they must wash before prayer. Most, if not all, Mosques provide washing facilities to be used before prayer

 

The nation is on cruise control? No problems to address?

 

You've never been to a Muslim country. Have you?...lol