Romney is a stealth Democrat

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Vet1966, Jan 2, 2019.

  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Romney has a brain and some class to go along with that. He would be my choice for president, one reason being is that he knows what he doesn't know and would not make decisions without conferring with advisors and experts. He also does not denigrate people who criticize him. Oh, he doesn't make claims like "I know more than the generals", and "nobody knows more about technology than me",
    and a 10% wage increase for the military, and bringing a bunch of slimy people into his inner circle, and saying that the "wall" is just about completed, and last but not least shutting down the government and holding 800,000 people hostage using the ridiculous reason that they are all democrats so who cares.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    He isn't a Democrat. Other than that, yes.
     
  3. ocean515

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    No.

    American Patriots don't give away the country to globalists. They don't destroy jobs and industries because the think they know better. They don't embrace foreign invasion. And the list goes on....
     
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    Romney is more like a traditional Republican before the birther fringe took over the Republican party.
     
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    And here we find another!
     
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    Yeah, that's where I obviously differ from you. Most of the time when the government starts "working together", its at the detriment to the citizens. They never come to session to regulate just "x, y, and z", they try to regulate the entire alphabet every time and see how much more of the citizens money can they spend. The grid lock, the less things get done in DC, the better it is for the people.
     
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    Political reality, to win in Massachusetts one has to be a liberal Republican. Akin to the old Rockefeller Republicans when the Northeast was mostly Republican territory. Politics is the art of the possible. To get anything at all accomplished in Massachusetts, one must work with the democrats since they had total control of the that state's legislature. This falls under political realities.

    Running as an Alabama or Mississippi conservative Republican, Romney wouldn't have received 20% of the vote in Massachusetts, never would have become governor. Political reality.

    Disliking Trump, Romney isn't alone. 40% of the nation dislike Trump a lot, 9% more dislike him somewhat compared to 15% who like trump a lot and 16% somewhat. Only 40% of all republicans like Trump a lot, 29% somewhat. Independents, 11% like Trump a lot, 37% dislike him a lot, the somewhats for independents come in at 17% like somewhat, 9% dislike somewhat. The somewhat's can change from being either like to dislike or back from dislike to like. They not set in stone like the very like's or dislike's. They're not avid Trumpers. Probably only around 40% of Republicans are. Question 57.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/oijdv5i5r9/econTabReport.pdf

    It boils down to Trump's obnoxious personality more than issues. It's his character, persona which a majority of Americans dislike about him. Romney isn't alone.
     
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    Yes, we do have a basic difference in how government should be functioning.
     
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    Romney is a moderate Republican.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    You are correct and are describing Trump who is in the process of destroying our standing in the world and our financial life
    at home with his isolationist and anti-trade policies in the name of patriotism.
     
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    LOL

    Lame.

    You should try to have a least some semblance of accuracy if you're going to try this type of post.

    Attempting to correct the pathetic give away of US jobs by the previous administration is an appropriate course of action. Holding our allies more responsible for their own defense and national integrity is an appropriate course of action. Taking on the global economic war China has been engaging in is an appropriate course of action.

    It may be that you want to give away US jobs, be responsible for the defense and national integrity of our allies, and allow China to win an economic war against the US.

    If that is the case, I can understand your rejection of the President's objectives.
     
  12. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I know you do. Actually, you don't. I don't want anything of the sort, because if we do things Trump's way we will not have jobs as prices skyrocket, companies leave and layoffs result.
     
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    According to WTO tariff schedules, the US has been getting screwed by our trade partners. You don't see how that harms US Jobs?

    According to lawsuits and known facts, China has been ripping off the US to the tune of $100's of billions over the years, causing significant damage to US Companies and US employment. Do you think something should be done about that?

    Why would companies leave, when the President's actions are creating a more fair and level playing field?

    Memes are a poor replacement for facts.
     
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    Either way is not good. Trump is not creating much of anything. Companies will continue to leave as prices rise and tariffs take hold. Robotics is much of the future and this needs to be addressed. His pugnacious style is chasing trading partners away.
     
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    ????

    Have a nice day.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Reread post #89. I had not completed my post and pushed the reply button by mistake. You have a nice day too.
     
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    No, it makes me angry, and ready to throw down.

    And strangely, simultaneously, what you say is true too.
     
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    Do you deny that Ocasio-Cortez has a backbone? I never said having a backbone was the only qualification to be a leader. It's merely one of many qualities needed in a leader. Would you prefer if my post was a 5,000 word essay on what I believe to be all the qualities needed in a leader? Meh - it would have taken us wildly off-topic and would have been ignored, due to its' length.

    Ocasio-Cortez definitely has a backbone, though. Hard to deny. Since she's not part of the OP, I won't get into all the problems I have with her.
     
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    Romney stood against Obama when Obama laughed at the notion that Russia was a threat to the US. I believe Obama's words as he was laughing hysterically were "Romney, the Cold War is over!".



    https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/opinions/obama-romney-russia-opinion-drucker/index.html
     
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    Romney is very similiar to ******* John Kasich who campaigned on protecting the second amendment and then vetoed a new gun friendly Ohio bill that landed on his desk. Fortunately, the Ohio legislature overturned his veto.

    Neither of these wannabe Presidents are trustworthy.
     
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    Romney is just a loser. If he had balls, he could have beaten Obama by 10 points.
     
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    If Trump is your ideal of what's a real man you have a serious problem...
     
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    He will try to be what his polls tell him to be and he will come off as a poser again.
     
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    Romney is just another member of the Global Elite.. just like his demonrat fellow travelers.
     
  25. ibobbrob

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    Romney is a very able guy, very successful in business without the mobster mentality and is not surrounded by low-level flunkies in his inner circle. He does not operate in a chaotic way and knows how to negotiate without alienating others. He is organized and knows
    what he doesn't know. He does not think that he "knows more than the generals" and that "nobody knows more about technology than me". Obviously, he is a pragmatic individual and If he runs for the presidency whenever he would be my first choice over all the other candidates who participated in the debates.
     

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