Russia Threatens Norway to Stay Out of NATO Missile Defense

Incapable Dicky son... No good.

 

?????? uh, its equal to your unsupported claims that nuclear warhead missiles and missile defense missiles use the same launcher. JUST as deep as your analysis

 

My government is indeed a greater threat to my freedom than Russia.
Is it a greater threat to my freedom, then the Russians government is to Russian freedom? I can't say for sure... but I don't think so.

MAD is but one of many nuclear doctrines we may use. I do not seek MAD. I seek either, ND. No destruction, or MED. My enemies destruction.
Any time my destruction is being assured by anyone or anything, I wish to change that.

I don't give a **** about Russia's hurt feelings. If they can't kill me. That is preferred.
In the US you may have no history of external threat to associate yourselves with. In Russia and in the UK, we do.

The Russians made the same noises when we housed the US missile shield as they have with everyone else.
So what. They are free to unilaterally disarm any time they please. Then we will take them down.
Boo hoo if the Russians feel provoked. They have their own missile shield. Do you honestly expect me to take them seriously?
Nuke us or shut up Russia. You are boring every one.

 

Ok, consider yourself nuked. For means of convenience - just get yourself a dish of oil, heat it up and then pour water in. That'll save me time coming and nuking you up myself.

 

Sounds good. Make time. I like oil.

 

No, I mean - you ask to get nuked. Ok, but I am not going all the way to do it for you, so just heat oil, pour water in and live on, considering yourself nuked. You can, pretty much get even authentic burns.

Iamnotbeingresponsibleformisinterpritationofthejokeandmishandlingofhotoilaswellasreceivinganysortofhighdegreeburns.

 

Mishandlinghotoilresultinginfrictionburns. Nuke me. I'm game.

 

The United States told us their anti-missile system was against Iran. Many people posted pictures of the globe with trasses of assumed Iraninan missiles targeted at New York and so on. And the US installations in Poland and Romania were to intercept these Iranian missiles. Top US officials made statements that the ABM system was intented against Iran, not against Russia. But today everybody forgot about it. Now they put their lies aside - no need to pretend to be a poor lamb which is scared of imaginary Iranian wolf. Now the USA are extending their military capabilities in Europe under the new cover - Russian threat to Baltic states. Russia wants to occupy Latvia, to destroy democracy and freedom. The same as Iran wanted to launch missiles to New York just several years ago. That's why new arms are based there where they haven't been based before - for the sake of freedom and democracy, of course.

 

This is not so much about Britain/Russia as about US/Russia. In terms of "fear of an external threat" our Gov't is using this fear (a fear that is mostly fantasy) to turn this country into a quazi totalitarian police state. Both Red and Blue hate individual rights and freedoms/Liberty and love to trample on the constitution.

I realy do not like Putin and am not a big fan of Russians in general (not meaning to overgeneralize as I have met some great Russians). What I do not see is Russia putting missile defense on US borders. What I see is for every step Russia took back since the end of the WW2 and the cold war ... NATO took two steps forward. As they demilitarized ... NATO moved in.

At some point we poked the bear one too many times ... Ukraine is a prime example. We first got involved in the politics, then we started the idea of them joining NATO knowing this was a "red line".. knowing that Russia is not going to give up its strategic port in Crimea .. one it has held for centuries.

Russia is not going to disarm .. and "we" are not going to take them down. That is reality.

 

"Russia wants to occupy Latvia, to destroy democracy and freedom. The same as Iran wanted to launch missiles to New York just several years ago." Iran? i think you forgot already about you occupation of Lugandon and Crimea , right?

 

So DicKson, your comment is so weak and baseless. No base, no foundation, no cement, no brick yet still want to build something. No good Dicky.

 

Let me assure you, that when we start "poking the bear". This is not what it will look like.

My goal in life is not "to please the Russians" or even to treat them fairly, as if we were involved in a game of Cricket or Golf. We are not.

I seek advantage. I seek it over Russia and the Russians. I seek it over you, my wife, my family, everyone.
I recognise that someone will always hold the whip hand in any relationship. I also recognise that the only person I can trust to do so, is me. I don't seek to offer you any choice in this matter. No sporting chance. It will be a straight forward contest of will and strength every time. When I win, you will be safe from me. But only then.

I don't expect Russia to disarm. I expect them to keep on up-arming endlessly and forever. They can expect the same from me.
Should however, they deny my expectations and do so. I will change my behaviour accordingly. Until that day, it's business as usual.

Make no mistake, if we need to take them down, we will.
I don't think it will come to that myself. We are way more likely to join forces than we are to declare war on each other.
Our relationship may be a prickly one of rivalry, but we get on.

People really are exploding bombs in Russia. Russians have real enemies trying to kill them. None of them. Zero. Nada, none. Are NATO members.

 

So who's the 'we' in this context? I thought you were a Brit. You're not seriously suggesting that we could take on The Bear are you? And I'd really like to know why you loathe them so much?

 

I don't loathe them any more or less than I loathe anyone else.
We have nukes and worse in our arsenals. We need bow before none.

Anyone who F's with us will lose. Anyone.

We in this case is the British. I pay people who think the same as me to do whatever needs to be done.
I trust them to do so and if they are unable to, or unwilling to, I am not.

Those who would stand against us will fall. Test my will, I dare you all.

 

In this case - them and us - my money's on The Bear!

 

Always bet on Baff.
That's my advice.

Giant slaying? All it takes is just one sling.

The story of David and Goliath teachs the use of sling soldiers to the Jews.
By superior knowledge a much bigger foe can be routinely defeated by a smaller one.
Force amplification. We don't have to be "the biggest". Only big enough.

 

Yeah, but David got lucky first time. If he'd missed Goliath would've marmalized him!

 

No, he would have run off and slung again.
The odds weren't in favour of Goliath at all. He had brought a club to sling fight.

Slings were a decisive battle technology. They won wars.
I'm trying to think of the ancient general who used them famously, maybe Alexander or Xerxes? Maybe some Roman fella, if I remember I'll edit it in.

But in all honesty if you are too afraid of being marmalised, you are a slave to the first big mutta you meet. Better to live free or die trying.

A bit of Dune for your entertainment.


I don't promise to survive my fights, but I promise you, my enemy will fall.

 

Wasn't here a saying in Cold War of "better dead then red" or something like this?

 

If it's not worth dying for, it's not worth living for.

 

That sounds almost as trite as 'I don't agree with what you say but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.'

Yeah right, believe that and you'll believe anything!!

 

Each to his own.
I believe that in order to defeat my enemy I must be willing to sacrifice more than he.
To make the price for fighting me too high for him. My will (and ability) to take things further than he is willing to go. To break his.

I also believe that in order to maintain a standard of world class excellence, devoting my life to that end is a requirement. If I don't, others will.

What motivates me to get out of bed in the morning. To eat drink and live, is my loved ones.
I would die for any of them. And without them I should have no more reason to live myself.


I will take role model from Bruce Lee.

 

You are living in some black vs white Paradigm where every relationship is that of Master and Slave. We are not going to hold the "whip" over Russia form a military perspective.

Trying to do this will end in mutually assured destruction ... an this is "MAD".

Make no mistake - "THERE IS NO TAKING RUSSIA DOWN". To try such a thing would be self destructive madness.

I hope we do join forces - the world has some serious issues that are going to get worse over the next few decades and Russia is going to be the least of our worries. Right now Russia and the West are fighting over the energy corridor "new silk road" to the energy hungry India and China. This is an economic battle and it is the reason for destabilization of Afghanistan and Syria (as these are key to control of this energy corridor).

This economic battle has nothing to do with Russia wanting to attack the US or Britain or vice versa. This battle has everything to do with economic control of the "new silk road" and we are ripping up the ME in order get control of this corridor.

All this "Missile Defense" and other military fantasy nonsense is just a way to keep the pockets of the defense contractors lined and to create fear in the populace so that the Gov't can take away your liberty - trade individual rights and freedoms for security.

The establishment elite (robber barons) want to maintain their wealth and power and so they need to keep the raging masses occupied (on their toes) with other distractions so they do not focus on wealth inequality.

 

Why would I seek to whip the Russians? My ability to whip and my desire to whip are not to be confused. I have had a gun my entire life and never shot anyone yet. I own a whip too, and have never yet used it.

And yes, if self destruction is required to stop myself from a lifetime of being whipped, that's what's going to happen.
But it won't just be my own destruction. Of that you can be certain. A Russian body burns at the same temperature as anyone else's. Take Russia down in 4 minutes flat. Sayonara. Nothing left but some mountain folk.

Live in fear, if you like. I do not.

Nor do I care about your energy corridor, sorry. I had shares in the Georgian pipeline. But I sided with the Russians in that war. It's a consideration to be sure, but not always my primary one.