Russia wanted Trump to win the election

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  1. SkullKrusher

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    Well of course Russia wanted Trump to win. Why should they not? The other choice, Hillary, they saw as the true lunatic candidate supporting the continuation of total anarchy in the middle east and threatening war with Russia for daring to quash ISIS in Syria.
     
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    If I were a Russian and for over a year some old burned out hippie with hair growing out of her toes and had cankles kept advocating for going to war with Russia, I would rather see that someone else win the election in 2016. We Russians can get out uranium from someone else.

    That's if I were a Russian.
     
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    With Trump as President there is a lot of that going on. To some degree the same thing has happened to me with some of my email friends. I have made no secret of the fact that I am a Trump critic. Three of my friends voted for Trump. While we still share emails, they have gotten quite bitter.

    I think what is happening is the same thing that is happening on this forum. Trump supporters now realize they made a very serious mistake. While they will admit that to themselves, they won't admit it publicly. It is hard for people to admit to others they were wrong. However, their pathetic arguments in support of Trump indicate the truth of the matter, and they get hostile and personal when the foolishness of their arguments is revealed.
     
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    You are one of those responsible for Trump. How do you feel about your decision now? Are you happy with the chaos he is creating?
     
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    Trumpets ignore the past, so they will repeat what the shame of those that followed Hitler. Karma demands the lessons be learned.
     
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    Your post is straight out of the Donald J. Trump web site. What a moronic post. Can't you think for yourself?

    Another Trump supporter who virtually admitted that he is sympathetic to Russia, supporting the candidate preferred by Russia.

    BTW, it was a Republican President who created the "total anarchy in the middle east," not a Democrat. Trump and his supporters have a lousy sense of history.
     
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    I'm not responsible fro any of them,PERIOD! But I sure as hell wouldn't vote for the dragon woman. Or anyone else promoting socialism. So I'm glad most at least voted for hope and Trump. It was the only chance they had. I don't vote because I have lost hope in this nation.
     
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    Should we hold it against countries cuz they root for one of our candidates? France wanted Clinton. WHY did they want that?

    Are you alleging a conspiracy? Fine if you are. I don't root for Trump, but this is a dead horse at this point. Wanting Trump to win is not a crime. Spreading propaganda is not a crime. If it was all news should be in jail...

    Our world functions on propaganda, agendas propped up by elites. The way I see it, Trump actually wasn't their candidate. So now all of a sudden propaganda is a problem and must be investigated. And of course all the lemming people gobble it up cuz they don't like Trump.

    Look, he's an idiot and I don't like him. Suck it up, sometimes your team doesn't win.

    Lastly think of the ramifications. Do you seriously want a war with RUSSIA?! A war we would likely see here in the states, over a shill like Clinton?
     
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    Yea lets ignore this blood thirsty Russian deal making traitor. It is hilariouly funny to her that a man was tortured to death by her conrades. The same ones she wants to come here now. They have already helped to infiltrate Europe with radicals raping, killing blowing up things.
    What about them turning over The Balkans to Islamic hordes? Roosevelt and I have to say Prescott Bush making deals with Hitler and his muslim allies? Learn your history.

     
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    Nobody I know followed Hitler but the left sure are in the same political persuasion as Pol Pot, Mussillni and Stalin. And who lost the most people in WW11? If you said white Europeans you'd be right. But you won't read any books about them or see any movies or museum's about their persecution;s and loss's .
     
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    This contention is nonsense! The "talk" around government circles in Europe is that, actually, Putin wanted Hillary to win -- precisely because she was so predictably stupid, negligent, and criminal -- in addition to being a walking template of everything that defines "Socialism-lite", American-style. Kind of like Obama, but with teats. And it could be generally agreed that Putin made mincemeat out of Obama every time they crossed paths....

    Trump, on the other hand, was an unknown. He had been a Democrat, and he was most recently a Republican. But, in reality, nobody was sure what the hell Trump was, and that is unsettling and troubling to any adversary. A man like Putin likes to KNOW what he's dealing with, and if Trump is anything, it's being an UNKNOWN who is likely to change his mind about anything the next time the sun rises. Of COURSE Putin preferred to be dealing with a simple-minded, predictable, doctrinaire nitwit he could out-think on even his worst day! Of COURSE he would have preferred to see Hillary Clinton elected!

    [​IMG]. "Hate me if you wish, but never believe that I'm stupid...."
     
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    You are, of course, crudely referring to Clinton. You haven't been paying attention. You didn't even read the thread title. Moreover, you are completely ignorant of Russia's widely publicized goal. Russia wanted Trump to win the election.

    You didn't know that? Incredible! My neighbor in sixth grade knew that.

    Aw, you support Trump. That explains everything.
     
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    Where's the evidence ?

    The former FBI Director and the CIA both have said that the Russians have been meddling in our elections for decades and during the 2016 elections the Russians were trying to disrupt America's election process. It's just that the Democrats were more likely to take the bait.

    There are four significant political parties in Russia today.

    The Liberal Democrat Party and the Communist Party of Russia were likely rooting for Bernie Sanders while the current political party in power today, the United Russia party were kinda split over Hillary and Trump. They know that Hillary can be bought and sold. If Russia wants another 20% of America's uranium, all they had to do is make a donation to the Clinton Foundation and Hillary would approve the sale.

    Now Putin might have had second thoughts with Hillary. Hillary for the past few years has been yelling for war with Russia.
    Putin don't want no war with the USA.
    The Russian people don't want no war with the USA.
    The American people don't want no war with Russia except liberal Democrats, progressives and neoconservative RINO's.
     
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    Yes, I agree, except when Russia engages in a war of aggression and annexes a neighbor's province in addition to supporting our countries enemies, Syria, Iran, and North Korea. In which case, we have a right to act in our country's best interests and that will involve sanctions.

    I voted a straight Republican ticket for 25 years beginning with Reagan. Our war of aggression, our invasion of Iraq, caused me to reassess my political position. It angered me that much. I haven't voted for a Republican President since. However, that is due to the fact that the GOP has been taken over by extremists, tea party, white supremacists, religious right, disenfranchised white blue collar workers, more than any lingering anger over Iraq.
     
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    You and Trump are the only two people on the planet who didn't know Putin wanted Trump to be our next President.

    That is pure, disgusting Trump B.S. Seriously, are you really that dense? That gullible? Do you honestly believe what you said?

    Man, you got a very serious problem in addition to an intelligence issue.
     
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    You are, of course, referring to the Trump administration. I just wanted to point that out.

    He lost another cabinet member today. He had to cannibalize his cabinet to appoint a chief of staff. He still hasn't nominated anyone to replace Kelly at DHS.

    Many think he is having a hard time getting qualified people to work for him. They don't last very long.
     
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    They don't ignore the past. They are ignorant of the past, just they are ignorant about many other things, healthcare and NFL football to name two.
     
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    Wow, you must be miserable. Man, I'd hate to be you.

    "So I'm glad most at least voted for hope and Trump." You think the Trump Presidency represents hope? You aren't paying attention.

    And yes, you and people like you who chose not to vote are responsible for Trump and the chaos in Washington. Or, perhaps you enjoy the prospect of a war with North Korea Trump is doing everything to start. Perhaps you enjoy the chaos he created in football stadiums across the country. Perhaps you regard all that as "hope" for country.

    That's right, you've lost all hope. You have my sympathies.
     
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    If that country is hostile like Russia is, we should consider that in our vote. Trump's base did and sided with Russia.

    No.

    Of course, all that is true.

    No.
     
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    Take it easy nobody wants to trade places here. And I'm fine so don't you worry bout me.
    Now there are 3 songs that come to mind.:banana:
     
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    Seriously, you need help. Where are you getting this? From the KKK manifesto?
     
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    You have to put it into context what russia did in crimea. We would have done the same, except with military force. No way in hell would the US give up its only warm water port, if we only had one, in mexico, which we had used for a couple hundred years. Right? National Security is essential. IF the US did not want russia to be involved in crimea, we should have kept our CIA out of ukraine helping that coup.

    I agree with you on the GOP. Yet are the modern Dems any better on these issues? I was a democrat until clinton turned it into the GOP lite. I belong to neither these days. Both do not represent my interests, or yours if you are middle class or working poor.
     
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    That contention is nonsense. Your contention defies the Russian ad campaign on Facebook, defies the hacked emails and a four-month daily barrage from Wikileaks designed to destroy the Clinton campaign, and it defies the assessment of our intelligence agencies. In other words, your contention is incredibly stupid. It also has no substance. It is just your opinion based on thin air. You cannot provide one source to support your incredulous contention.

    Again ignorance is on display, Trump was extremely well-known, and Putin knew him well as reality show host. Trump was known to be totally unaware of governance, foreign affairs, and military matters. In other words, for Putin, the perfect American President. He couldn't do anything foolish because his generals wouldn't let him. They knew he was stupid. Putin knew that, too.

    Putin knew exactly who he was dealing with. Putin knows which shoe Trump puts on first.
     
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    Russia has a warm water port in Syria, but they didn't annex Syria. They had several warm water ports in Crimea. They didn't have to annex it. Other than that, I'm passing on Ukraine. You can try to justify it all you want, but Russia invaded Ukraine and took Crimea. You can't put the blame on the CIA. You can have the last word.

    I'm a moderate conservative. No party represents me, either. I am an Eisenhower Republican but they don't exist anymore.
     
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    Of course not! The KKK is almost as bad as the NAACP.
     

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